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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demi@invisiblethingslab.com>
To: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
	David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	Heming Zhao <heming.zhao@suse.com>
Cc: Peter Rajnoha <prajnoha@redhat.com>,
	Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@suse.com>,
	"bmarzins@redhat.com" <bmarzins@redhat.com>,
	"linux-lvm@lists.linux.dev" <linux-lvm@lists.linux.dev>,
	Glass Su <glass.su@suse.com>, "hare@suse.de" <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: discuss about commit 3b0f9ce: filter-mpath: get wwids from sysfs vpd_pg83
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:47:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVbGObxAvSsYqvvo@itl-email> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e64bbbc8-1716-4739-a68c-2f92563a9c8d@redhat.com>

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On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 02:37:13PM +0100, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> Dne 15. 11. 23 v 20:12 David Teigland napsal(a):
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 07:36:57PM +0800, Heming Zhao wrote:
> > >  From the lvm2 code, above description is wrong. By default, system/devices is
> > > disabled status. Because lvm.conf option "use_devicesfile = 0" by default.
> > > under "use_devicesfile = 0", any pvcreate/vgcreate/lvmdevices/vgimportdevices
> > > won't generate/create system/devices file.
> > > If my watching is correct, part discussion of this thread may invalid.
> > The lvm default is use_devicesfile=1, as shown in this commit:
> > 
> > commit 6c22392a3f903d6c086f7cc94978bdf8b072da6e
> > Author: David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>
> > Date:   Tue Mar 16 09:52:13 2021 -0500
> > 
> >      config: change default use_devicesfile to 1
> > 
> > diff --git a/lib/config/defaults.h b/lib/config/defaults.h
> > index 66eece53aa33..a7a2a06df654 100644
> > --- a/lib/config/defaults.h
> > +++ b/lib/config/defaults.h
> > @@ -322,7 +322,7 @@
> >   #define DEFAULT_MD_COMPONENT_CHECKS "auto"
> > -#define DEFAULT_USE_DEVICES_FILE 0
> > +#define DEFAULT_USE_DEVICES_FILE 1
> >   #define DEFAULT_DEVICES_FILE "system.devices"
> > 
> > 
> > Later commits that removed DEFAULT_USE_DEVICES_FILE, and tried to replace
> > it with a configure option, was a failed attempt at building that lvm
> > source for RHEL8.  It's caused no end of problems and I plan to revert it
> > and restore define DEFAULT_USE_DEVICES_FILE 1.
> 
> 
> There is no problem with configuring DEFAULT_USE_DEVICES_FILE with
> 'configure --with-default-use-devices-file= 0/1' and thus no need to change
> anything here.
> 
> Current upstream has set this default value as 0  (in configure.ac)
> 
> RHEL builds use this setting as 1.  (Possibly even Fedora nowadays).
> 
> The major problem with turning this  to 1 is the distribution must be
> 'ready' with such relatively invasive change as it changes also requirements
> on how the boot image is created  (devicesfile must be copied to ramdisk).
> 
> So Suse  may try to set this setting  to 1  and see what all breaks.
> 
> 
> Zdenek

Does this mean that distributions *should* set this to 1 and update
their installers?

This would have saved Qubes OS a security bulletin (LVM was scanning
VM-controlled block devices) and might make LVM faster (since it would
no longer need to scan every device on the system).
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
Invisible Things Lab

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-17  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11 12:51 discuss about commit 3b0f9ce: filter-mpath: get wwids from sysfs vpd_pg83 Heming Zhao
2023-11-13 11:52 ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-13 13:52   ` Peter Rajnoha
2023-11-13 18:38     ` David Teigland
2023-11-14  7:55       ` Peter Rajnoha
2023-11-14 16:30         ` David Teigland
2023-11-15  8:51           ` Peter Rajnoha
2023-11-15 11:36             ` Heming Zhao
2023-11-15 19:12               ` David Teigland
2023-11-16 13:37                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-11-16 13:46                   ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-16 14:03                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-11-16 15:29                       ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-16 17:13                         ` David Teigland
2023-11-16 15:10                   ` David Teigland
2023-11-16 15:40                     ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-16 15:48                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-11-16 17:27                         ` David Teigland
2023-11-16 15:59                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-11-17  1:47                   ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2023-11-17 15:25                     ` David Teigland
2023-11-17 19:57                       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-11-17 20:16                         ` David Teigland
2023-11-17 21:03                           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-11-17 21:05                             ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-20 10:13                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-11-15 21:02             ` David Teigland
2023-11-15 21:46               ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-16 16:11                 ` David Teigland
2023-11-14 10:44       ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-14 12:18         ` Heming Zhao
2023-11-14 17:16           ` David Teigland
2023-11-14 17:00         ` David Teigland
2023-11-14 17:48           ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-14 17:58             ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-14 21:02               ` David Teigland
2023-11-15  7:35                 ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-16 16:34                   ` David Teigland
2023-11-16 20:22                     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2023-11-14 20:51             ` David Teigland
2023-11-15  5:15               ` Heming Zhao
2023-11-15  7:39                 ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-21 14:39   ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-21 17:56     ` David Teigland
2023-11-21 18:10       ` Martin Wilck
2023-11-21 18:25         ` David Teigland
2023-11-21 20:35           ` Martin Wilck

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