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From: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>,
	Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Possible bug in thin metadata size with Linux MDRAID
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 12:53:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eff2bc4d-8008-7c02-cbdb-ac6ef66129f8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7633987-709e-34ee-4e87-b3f5e8d73335@assyoma.it>

Dne 9.3.2017 v 12:24 Gionatan Danti napsal(a):
> On 08/03/2017 19:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> If you do NOT specify any setting - lvm2 targets 128M metadata size.
>>
>> If you specify '--chunksize'  lvm2 tries to find better fit and it happens
>> to be slightly better with 256M metadata size.
>>
>> Basically - you could specify anything to the last bit - and if you
>> don't lvm2 does a little 'magic' and tries to come with 'reasonable'
>> defaults for given kernel and time.
>>
>> That said - I've in my git tree some rework of this code - mainly for
>> better support of metadata profiles.
>> (And my git calculation gives me 256K chunksize + 128M metadata size -
>> so there was possibly something not completely right in version 166)
>>
>>
>
> 256 KB chunksize would be perfectly reasonable
>
>>> Why I saw two very different metadata volume sizes? Chunksize was 128
>>> KB in
>>> both cases; the only difference is that I explicitly specified it on the
>>> command line...
>>
>> You should NOT forget - that using 'thin-pool' without any monitoring
>> and automatic resize is somewhat 'dangerous'.
>>
>
> True, but I should have no problem if not using snapshot or overprovisioning -
> ie when all data chunks are allocated (filesystem full) but no
> overprovisioned. This time, however, the created metadata pool was
> *insufficient* to even address the provisioned data chunks.

Hmm - it would be interesting to see your 'metadata' -  it should be still
quite good fit 128M of metadata for 512G  when you are not using snapshots.

What's been your actual test scenario ?? (Lots of LVs??)

But as said - there is no guarantee of the size to fit for any possible use 
case - user  is supposed to understand what kind of technology he is using,
and when he 'opt-out' from automatic resize - he needs to deploy his own
monitoring.

Otherwise you would have to simply always create 16G metadata LV if you do not 
want to run out of metadata space.


> I am under impression that 128 KB size was chosen because this was MD chunk
> size. Indeed further tests seem to confirm this.

Ahh yeah - there was small issue - when the 'hint' for device geometry was 
used it has started from 'default' 64K size - instead of already counted 256K 
chunk size.


Regards

Zdenek

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-08 16:14 [linux-lvm] Possible bug in thin metadata size with Linux MDRAID Gionatan Danti
2017-03-08 18:55 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-03-09 11:24   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-03-09 11:53     ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2017-03-09 15:33       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-03-20  9:47         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-03-20  9:51           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-03-20 10:45             ` Gionatan Danti
2017-03-20 11:01               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-03-20 11:52                 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-03-20 13:57                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-03-20 14:25                     ` Gionatan Danti

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