From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 605791DE4F6 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2025 06:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1750056178; cv=none; b=CoBosoOKiYbnyXbYWKVX3PxP8G4LLgCgO4gYsdl4Ao6H9g0C1IluzvEl0Z/UX2WGRoVukyGphfKkcfuLRz89ReCiSGk/XmKQPFEhVrT1CB3jgeoCVjN8qjnA3vwbBP37yXxkslhwXF1BSbFbFSZsD07ROkF4HOC0LYftlfLlUgo= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1750056178; c=relaxed/simple; bh=UQUgJC7Vu8oTflH/7wWeZCnmjVaiQ6FDQNXCKGqOfFc=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=oXLpJ1xNiD2+aFU+1hWa2a5hoOKKTLm2PPdPl8WC4UWDOfc+cshdSYwRlkJhm1ii1zIPEcAG8noG/iTxYtcAtHzAGHqH6szhqySl8UY8+JoDZ+o6WkkdwmG/BuMxJm736KQU7siExIbp4WR6bVOpkpwU50wluWuwKZmVkm0D6Gg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b=MZnB9NT+; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b="MZnB9NT+" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fu-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Yy74COGESJnh84VsMxOwsS89hxKbG7R9N2b3zCar9xA=; t=1750056175; x=1750660975; b=MZnB9NT+vxtpQ7hPj9iJ3LvZKLfhPGhRyc4S0Q+0mbKhl0a3Ot/Um4O8tUsGyA4Okn6U80vMU14 jEHZxikTFKN8Hhh7xb7qGpPPuxTkzfGzkZb3viQfXxAi4jKWED/P5kckHT7EiHDq73jc3WrGEDKvM rN+B1qu+UxsJJbn+B1w8doQyiAmxzC+1AUvWfFv8B6DU3/JanzuOnlymzX2mm+0mCx7xtUiYb9Q0N k7PJHUkrC0vTjVY6ZNJo7/ttN14TR9NNEOhtC/fgZd0b2ySQHPsJ2EJb3OPAY18OCHSKkDANtfLlQ M6Sf5yvEch+OJEvrkQ8CwNn0MsEegLIG9ONw==; Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1uR3YS-00000001Vmw-00qe; Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:42:52 +0200 Received: from p57bd96d0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.189.150.208] helo=[192.168.178.61]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1uR3YR-00000003NSE-3TPS; Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:42:51 +0200 Message-ID: <04c583405de666d61b545a9879d94a209654412d.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz To: Geert Uytterhoeven , Eero Tamminen Cc: Finn Thain , Jean-Michel Hautbois , port-m68k , debian-68k , linux-m68k Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:42:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <80f5c684-638b-4486-9026-1f8689a7f147@yoseli.org> <95e56d983ace4976143c7e1180ffe5606c0ee3fe.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <758f14d8-6d03-2aab-468b-170b0bbb7d2a@linux-m68k.org> <8e0186f61cc9bbed2373ae215e80ab7e70042793.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <6e6f8e27ff90ce3f8535fc4f5c57049c59a9b227.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <49a62eda6aea856df248aa223365b5230020d829.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <569d73fb-8ad5-46f0-bf4c-568919f319e7@helsinkinet.fi> <86c91d1c-cfc6-44c9-8883-d9ae46c3f4c3@helsinkinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.2 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO Hello Geert, On Sun, 2025-06-15 at 11:32 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > This is one of my worries, too. > The Debian package archive is much larger than the NetBSD one... Debian builds currently around 11000 source packages on m68k, NetBSD builds around 6000 packages. However, keep in mind that Debian as quite more Pytho= n Ruby and Perl packages than NetBSD and packages them all individually. Pythob, Ruby and Perl packages don't play any role in this discussion, exce= pt for those which embed C/C++ or Rust code. However, these will actually run better with 4 bytes alignment. Adrian >=20 --=20 .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913