From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
James Le Cuirot <chewi@aura-online.co.uk>,
debian-68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>,
Libc-help <libc-help@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 12:18:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f7345713d232c46f241e3b0a9303f76adebbde1.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23cce228-e58c-9c5d-74c7-49b0c77c35b7@linux-m68k.org>
On Tue, 2025-05-20 at 19:55 +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2025, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
> > > As for gccgo, has that ever worked on m68k?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
>
> Why is an ABI change needed to get it to work again?
Because software changes over time. Qt used to work with 2 bytes alignment
as well when it had less features.
> > > Other language runtimes work fine on the m68k ABI. Why is Rust
> > > special?
> >
> > You mean other languages such as JavaScript, Go, Java, Python and
> > WebKit?
> >
> > No, they don't work fine on m68k.
> >
>
> Python works -- you patched it yourself! -- it doesn't need a special ABI.
Yes, I had to PATCH it. That's the point, Finn.
> As for the Java runtime etc. I've never tried to install them on m68k but
> I know they were ported to a variety of ABIs with a variety of alignment
> rules, that do not guarantee natural alignment of integer types.
I see. Since you haven't tested it, it means the bug doesn't exist.
Gotcha.
Adrian
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2023-08-26 10:51 ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-26 19:24 ` Richard
2023-08-26 20:43 ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-28 6:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 10:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:11 ` Richard
2023-08-28 12:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 12:46 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-27 0:46 ` Finn Thain
2023-08-27 9:20 ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-27 11:27 ` Richard
2023-08-28 7:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:26 ` Richard
2023-08-28 11:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 20:16 ` Richard
2023-08-29 6:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 6:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 1:12 ` Finn Thain
2023-08-28 11:10 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:44 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-08-28 12:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 13:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-29 10:51 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 15:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 13:29 ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-29 10:54 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 21:53 ` Karoly Balogh
2023-08-30 1:33 ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-08-29 1:14 ` Finn Thain
2023-08-29 8:52 ` Eero Tamminen
2024-05-15 17:08 ` Python requires 32-bit alignment now - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18 7:09 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18 14:39 ` Antonio Vargas Gonzalez
2025-05-18 15:07 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 7:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19 7:54 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 8:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-05-19 8:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19 8:43 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 8:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19 8:14 ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-19 8:24 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:51 ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-20 9:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 9:15 ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-21 9:19 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:59 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 7:55 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 8:37 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 9:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 9:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 9:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:05 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 10:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:12 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 22:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 0:29 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 1:59 ` John Klos
2025-05-21 5:18 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-26 5:25 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 7:28 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 9:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 14:09 ` Debian subset suitable for m68k (was: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int) Eero Tamminen
2025-05-21 17:54 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 22:14 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-17 7:02 ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 7:25 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17 7:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 9:48 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17 9:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 10:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17 11:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 11:37 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 9:39 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 9:43 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 9:55 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 10:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [this message]
2025-05-20 11:03 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 11:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 0:14 ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 17:36 John Klos
2025-05-21 23:50 ` Finn Thain
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