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From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	James Le Cuirot	 <chewi@aura-online.co.uk>,
	debian-68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
	linux-m68k	 <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>,
	Libc-help <libc-help@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 12:18:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f7345713d232c46f241e3b0a9303f76adebbde1.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23cce228-e58c-9c5d-74c7-49b0c77c35b7@linux-m68k.org>

On Tue, 2025-05-20 at 19:55 +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2025, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> 
> > > As for gccgo, has that ever worked on m68k?
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> 
> Why is an ABI change needed to get it to work again?

Because software changes over time. Qt used to work with 2 bytes alignment
as well when it had less features.

> > > Other language runtimes work fine on the m68k ABI. Why is Rust 
> > > special?
> > 
> > You mean other languages such as JavaScript, Go, Java, Python and 
> > WebKit?
> > 
> > No, they don't work fine on m68k.
> > 
> 
> Python works -- you patched it yourself! -- it doesn't need a special ABI.

Yes, I had to PATCH it. That's the point, Finn.

> As for the Java runtime etc. I've never tried to install them on m68k but 
> I know they were ported to a variety of ABIs with a variety of alignment 
> rules, that do not guarantee natural alignment of integer types.

I see. Since you haven't tested it, it means the bug doesn't exist.

Gotcha.

Adrian

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e9035006d50933fb02727fa373629cc821784f6c.camel@aura-online.co.uk>
2023-08-26 10:51 ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-26 19:24   ` Richard
2023-08-26 20:43     ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-28  6:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 10:57     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:11       ` Richard
2023-08-28 12:22         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 12:46         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-27  0:46   ` Finn Thain
2023-08-27  9:20     ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-27 11:27       ` Richard
2023-08-28  7:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:26         ` Richard
2023-08-28 11:40           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 20:16           ` Richard
2023-08-29  6:52             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28  6:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:13       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29  1:12         ` Finn Thain
2023-08-28 11:10     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:44       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-08-28 12:50         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 13:17           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-29 10:51             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 15:27               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 13:29           ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-29 10:54             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 21:53               ` Karoly Balogh
2023-08-30  1:33                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-08-29  1:14       ` Finn Thain
2023-08-29  8:52         ` Eero Tamminen
2024-05-15 17:08   ` Python requires 32-bit alignment now - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18  7:09 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18 14:39   ` Antonio Vargas Gonzalez
2025-05-18 15:07     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  7:42       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  7:54         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2025-05-19  8:18             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:25               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  8:43                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:07           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  8:14   ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-19  8:24     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:51       ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-20  9:39         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  9:15           ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-21  9:19             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:59       ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  7:55         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  8:24           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20  8:37             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:46               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  9:56                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:58               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:05                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 10:09                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:12                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 22:13                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  0:29               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  1:59                 ` John Klos
2025-05-21  5:18                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-26  5:25                     ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  7:28                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  9:56                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 14:09                   ` Debian subset suitable for m68k (was: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int) Eero Tamminen
2025-05-21 17:54                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 22:14                       ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-17  7:02                   ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17  7:25                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17  7:40                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17  9:48                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17  9:59                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 10:13                             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17 11:21                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 11:37                                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:39           ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  9:43             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:55               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 10:18                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [this message]
2025-05-20 11:03                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 11:13                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  0:14                       ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 17:36 John Klos
2025-05-21 23:50 ` Finn Thain

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