New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[Arno Griffioen]

Hi guys!

It looks like in about a year I'll be losing the option to keep on
hosting the linux-m68k.org services as far as DNS, email(-forwarding)
and webpages goes. Also I'm no longer in a position to have the option
of setting it up again somewhere else.

I'm quite happy to keep sponsoring the yearly registration fees for the 
domain itself, but the technical/operational side will need a new home to 
keep running.

So i'm asking for someone to take over these services. I can provide copies of 
the relevant data (DNS zone files, current email aliases, HTML files, etc.) so 
everything can be migrated in due time.

If anyone wants to take this on, let me know! Thanks!

							Bye, Arno.

Re: New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

(Cross-posting to debian-m68k)

On 07/16/2015 11:44 AM, Arno Griffioen wrote:
> It looks like in about a year I'll be losing the option to keep on
> hosting the linux-m68k.org services as far as DNS, email(-forwarding)
> and webpages goes. Also I'm no longer in a position to have the option
> of setting it up again somewhere else.
> 
> I'm quite happy to keep sponsoring the yearly registration fees for the 
> domain itself, but the technical/operational side will need a new home to 
> keep running.
> 
> So i'm asking for someone to take over these services. I can provide copies of 
> the relevant data (DNS zone files, current email aliases, HTML files, etc.) so 
> everything can be migrated in due time.
> 
> If anyone wants to take this on, let me know! Thanks!

If it's just a matter of providing a server, I'd be happy to help out!

Adrian

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Re: New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[Joerg Dorchain]

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 01:35:48PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 07/16/2015 11:44 AM, Arno Griffioen wrote:
> > It looks like in about a year I'll be losing the option to keep on
> > hosting the linux-m68k.org services as far as DNS, email(-forwarding)
> > and webpages goes. Also I'm no longer in a position to have the option
> > of setting it up again somewhere else.
> > 
> > I'm quite happy to keep sponsoring the yearly registration fees for the 
> > domain itself, but the technical/operational side will need a new home to 
> > keep running.
> > 
> > So i'm asking for someone to take over these services. I can provide copies of 
> > the relevant data (DNS zone files, current email aliases, HTML files, etc.) so 
> > everything can be migrated in due time.
> > 
> > If anyone wants to take this on, let me know! Thanks!
> 
> If it's just a matter of providing a server, I'd be happy to help out!

I can help with that, too. John probably has the better
bandwidth, I think.

Bye,

Joerg, still stuck with DSL

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Re: New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Arno Griffioen
<arno@ancienthardware.org> wrote:
> It looks like in about a year I'll be losing the option to keep on
> hosting the linux-m68k.org services as far as DNS, email(-forwarding)
> and webpages goes. Also I'm no longer in a position to have the option
> of setting it up again somewhere else.
>
> I'm quite happy to keep sponsoring the yearly registration fees for the
> domain itself, but the technical/operational side will need a new home to
> keep running.
>
> So i'm asking for someone to take over these services. I can provide copies of
> the relevant data (DNS zone files, current email aliases, HTML files, etc.) so
> everything can be migrated in due time.
>
> If anyone wants to take this on, let me know! Thanks!

Thanks a lot for taking care of linux-m68k.org for the past (almost) 18 years!

As one of the big users of the email service, I can offer to have
linux-m68k.org hosted at Gandi (I have my company domain there, too).
That would include DNS and email forwarding.

For the website (This is static pages only, right? How big is it currently?),
I have to check whether I can easily add a vhost for that.
It could easily point elsewhere, too.
I do not have time to actively maintain the website's pages, though.

Is there anything else than DNS, email forwarding, and website, cfr. the
"etc."?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

Re: New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[Christian T. Steigies]

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:25:59AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Arno Griffioen
> <arno@ancienthardware.org> wrote:
> > It looks like in about a year I'll be losing the option to keep on
> > hosting the linux-m68k.org services as far as DNS, email(-forwarding)
> > and webpages goes. Also I'm no longer in a position to have the option
> > of setting it up again somewhere else.
> >
> > I'm quite happy to keep sponsoring the yearly registration fees for the
> > domain itself, but the technical/operational side will need a new home to
> > keep running.
> >
> > So i'm asking for someone to take over these services. I can provide copies of
> > the relevant data (DNS zone files, current email aliases, HTML files, etc.) so
> > everything can be migrated in due time.
> >
> > If anyone wants to take this on, let me know! Thanks!
> 
> Thanks a lot for taking care of linux-m68k.org for the past (almost) 18 years!

Lets buy Arno some beers at debconf as a little thank you. Are you still in
The Hague as listed on mirrors.html?  Maybe they have reasonable beer as
well, I'll be there in a couple of weeks.  BTW why is there a link to
discover instead of Chris' homepage?  I think the pages need some attention,
last updated 1999/2000, potato is just released. Some of the links are
outdated: Geocities closed in 2009.
 
> As one of the big users of the email service, I can offer to have
> linux-m68k.org hosted at Gandi (I have my company domain there, too).
> That would include DNS and email forwarding.

We can start a little collection at our next meeting perhaps, or is there a
way to donate money to linux-m68k? As DD a domain costs only 7 or 8EUR per
year, two beers...

> For the website (This is static pages only, right? How big is it currently?),
> I have to check whether I can easily add a vhost for that.
> It could easily point elsewhere, too.
> I do not have time to actively maintain the website's pages, though.
> 
> Is there anything else than DNS, email forwarding, and website, cfr. the
> "etc."?

A long time ago cvs.linux-m68k was hosted on kullervo (it's still pointing
there, but kullervo is not online). I tried to convert this to git, it is
now on people.d.o:
https://people.debian.org/~cts/m68kboot.git/
If the website is not too big (and if it is allowed by debian), we could put
a copy of it on a debian server. But something that could be editable by a
few more people (mabye not a CMS) would be nice to keep it a bit more up to
date?

Christian

Re: New maintainer and hosting needed for linux-m68k.org services (DNS, Email, Web)

[Arno Griffioen]

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:25:59AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Thanks a lot for taking care of linux-m68k.org for the past (almost) 18 years!

No prob! Case of having the resources available at the time and just 
fun doing it.

The resources may come to an end and life is sorta getting in the way at the
moment so I want to make sure things are moved to a new site and maintainer 
before things start to break :)

> As one of the big users of the email service, I can offer to have
> linux-m68k.org hosted at Gandi (I have my company domain there, too).
> That would include DNS and email forwarding.

First I'd lke to thank everyone who has already offered (virtual-)server 
capacity to host this! Looks like it should not be an issue to move this
over to a different location/site.

But to keep things easily maintainable, a solution like Geert proposes is 
probably the most practical.

'Hitch-hiking' on top of an existing service means that it removed most of
the secondary work like keeping the underlying setup (OS, spamfilters, etc.)
up to date for the person administering the forwarding adresses.

The email forwarding itself is little or no work as modifications/update on 
the adresses are few and far between. Once it's set up it's mostly done..

> For the website (This is static pages only, right? How big is it currently?),
> I have to check whether I can easily add a vhost for that.
> It could easily point elsewhere, too.
> I do not have time to actively maintain the website's pages, though.

Website is as far as I know all static pages with perhaps an ancient CGI
script that's probably broken anyway. Also there's the mac FTP site data but 
that has already been moved to a HTTP setup in the past so that's plain files 
too.

We haven't had an active webmaster for the last 8 to 10 years I think so 
yeah.. It's pretty ancient :)

I hate doing HTML or most *ML stuff myself so I have not really touched 
it.

> Is there anything else than DNS, email forwarding, and website, cfr. the
> "etc."?

Not as far as I can see.

Mailing list(s) have been on vger for ages and other services like CVS 
trees and the like have always been hosted on various other machines
in different locations over time. Same for some of the subdomains like
the NeXT stuff.

So it's basically:

- DNS zones
- Email alias forwarding (no local mailboxes)
- (static) Webpages

I agree that putting DNS+email forwarding with a domain registry is
probably the easiest to do. 

The webpages could be hosted on a simple virtual server or at some time
moved to some content-management setup to make it more easily maintainable
for others if.

							Bye, Arno.