From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: Anders Magnusson <ragge@tethuvudet.se>
Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Jean-Michel Hautbois <jeanmichel.hautbois@yoseli.org>,
port-m68k <port-m68k@netbsd.org>,
debian-68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 12:33:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250605103343.GC22312@mail.duskware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30ad91c1-b42f-48f7-81a0-e1efa64a6891@tethuvudet.se>
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 10:49:08AM +0200, Anders Magnusson wrote:
> Just curious; does not Linux use the processor-specific flagging in the
> binary that can tell whether it's 16- or 32-bit-aligned (and handle it
> thereafter)?
>
> NetBSD changed VAX from 1k to 4k pages quite some time ago, and to be able
> to use both we added a new id for 4k pages.
Or add an ELF note to all new binaries - we do that on sparc64 to mark
the compiler memory model used and give all binaries w/o the note
(or a note that it is using "medlow") a different VA memory layout (to
keep shared libs in range of the instructions used there, but defeating
most of ASLR).
Example:
> file ls
ls: ELF 64-bit MSB pie executable, SPARC V9, relaxed memory ordering, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld.elf_so, for NetBSD 10.99.14, compiler model: medmid, not stripped
> readelf -n ls
Displaying notes found in: .note.netbsd.ident
Owner Data size Description
NetBSD 0x00000004 IDENT 1099001400 (10.99.14)
Displaying notes found in: .note.netbsd.pax
Owner Data size Description
NetBSD 0x00000004 PaX <>
Displaying notes found in: .note.netbsd.mcmodel
Owner Data size Description
NetBSD 0x00000008 Unknown note type: (0x00000006)
The kernel finds these at exec/load time and sets a flag in the process
structure, and the (very few) places where it is important test for it.
This makes old installations compatible and old binaries using old
shared libs too, but you still can not mix shared libs (so you may have
to bump libc major if you really want to keep everything compatible).
Martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-05 10:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-26 15:05 Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-26 18:16 ` Jeffrey Walton
2025-05-26 18:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-26 18:48 ` Jeffrey Walton
2025-05-26 18:25 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-05-26 18:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 6:24 ` Jean-Michel Hautbois
2025-06-05 6:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 6:50 ` Jean-Michel Hautbois
2025-06-05 6:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 7:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-05 7:36 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 8:49 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-05 10:33 ` Martin Husemann [this message]
2025-06-06 7:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-07 9:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-06 10:20 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-07 9:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 9:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 10:02 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-07 11:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 12:55 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-07 13:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 13:53 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 13:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 14:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 14:54 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:19 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:51 ` John Klos
2025-06-07 16:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 18:43 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-07 21:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 23:06 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-10 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:31 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-08 1:10 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-08 11:47 ` Martin Husemann
2025-06-10 11:20 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-10 11:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:32 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-10 11:26 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-11 3:04 ` Stan Johnson
2025-06-11 7:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 15:32 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-11 15:49 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 14:54 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 1:36 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 10:56 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 11:12 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 0:58 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 11:22 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:21 ` John Klos
2025-06-13 13:33 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 20:10 ` Debian boot/login time Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 1:13 ` Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k Finn Thain
2025-06-12 1:54 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-12 7:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 10:00 ` Jason Thorpe
[not found] ` <CABq5eXH8S9MVoRi5znU+u7EJPmaRA+8yOyd-QKBJMQa10UoAmw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-12 7:27 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 8:19 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 11:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:06 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-12 8:25 ` Administrator @ R·V·E
2025-06-12 13:06 ` Christian Groessler
2025-06-13 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 12:21 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 12:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 15:39 ` Preliminary results - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-22 22:13 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-23 6:34 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-23 7:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 11:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 12:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 12:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:51 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:34 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-15 9:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 6:48 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:01 ` ALeX Kazik
2025-06-14 1:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 14:15 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 14:53 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 15:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-14 7:21 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 1:42 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-15 8:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 9:30 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-16 7:31 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 3:50 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 9:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 9:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 9:49 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 9:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 10:04 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 10:51 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 12:21 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-18 12:27 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 12:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 12:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 12:59 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-18 22:29 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-19 0:18 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-19 5:31 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-19 5:56 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-19 15:57 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-18 22:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-16 6:33 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 7:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 8:00 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 8:14 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 8:32 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 8:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 9:07 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:10 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 9:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:26 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 9:32 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:45 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 10:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 10:51 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 11:01 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:05 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 11:10 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:16 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 14:44 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-16 14:43 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-16 15:17 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 3:19 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 9:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 22:16 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 19:29 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 7:51 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 10:39 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 11:20 ` John Klos
2025-06-15 8:05 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 9:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 6:42 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:29 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 16:26 ` David Brownlee
2025-06-16 6:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
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