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From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/3] atomic: Add alignment check to instrumented atomic operations
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:39:31 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d3b1a8f-7f60-f03b-f13e-089f605961e6@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61895919-76ef-485d-ad5c-0cff866566f3@app.fastmail.com>


On Mon, 22 Sep 2025, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> 
> I don't think automated transformation is going to work well here, as 
> you may not want the same approach in each case, depending on what the 
> code is:
> 
> - it may be enough to annotate a single member as packed in order to 
>   make the entire structure compatible

Right, and that's the only transformation I mentioned.

> - some structures may have lots of misaligned members, but no holes, so 
>   a global __attribute__((packed, aligned(2))) on that struct is cleaner

That simplification should be amenable to further automation, if the first 
transformation is.

> - if there are holes, some strategic additions of explicit padding can 
>   be cleaner than annotating each misaligned member.

It's a matter of taste.

> - automation won't be able to tell whether a structure is ABI relevant 
>   or not

Right. That's why I said the list of struct members would need to be 
"manually pared down". But even that task may be too large to be feasible.

> - similarly, many files are not going to be interesting for m68k. E.g. 
>   if drivers/infiniband has an ABI that is different for -malign-int, 
>   that can likely be ignored because nobody cares in practice.
> 

Right. That's why I advocated running the plug-in on a "normal build" not 
a contrived mass of #includes and structs.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-14  0:45 [RFC v2 0/3] Align atomic storage Finn Thain
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 1/3] documentation: Discourage alignment assumptions Finn Thain
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 3/3] atomic: Add alignment check to instrumented atomic operations Finn Thain
2025-09-15  8:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15  9:38     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 10:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 10:37         ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 11:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16  0:16             ` Finn Thain
2025-09-16 10:10               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-17  1:23                 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-16 12:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16 21:38                 ` Brad Boyer
2025-09-17 16:54                   ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-17  2:14                 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22 15:49                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  6:39                     ` Finn Thain [this message]
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 2/3] atomic: Specify alignment for atomic_t and atomic64_t Finn Thain
2025-09-15  7:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-15  7:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-15  8:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15  9:26     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15  9:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-22  7:06   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22  8:16     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22  9:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22 15:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  6:28         ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23  6:41           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  8:05             ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23 19:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-30  2:18           ` Finn Thain
2025-09-30  6:35             ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-01  1:03               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01  6:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06  9:25                   ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06  9:25               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06 10:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06 10:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 11:09                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06  9:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  7:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-01  1:46               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01  7:08                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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