From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72C1A1DA61B for ; Tue, 20 May 2025 10:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1747735512; cv=none; b=m2sp+U5wCBul4Au0g4b+cKPmDjJzLf8rs1UK5RbigAd34AnIAC4uxsu+Ji7b9qH6XneKujzrnQU8agEIV3aAtKAF+2LzYU1zr653cTnehLgroWGztcC8SFZWU1T8Y85P/MV9RwxPJVYn+eQxDPUx5LKmbXqVSN7xV9ZaIm0PTwY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1747735512; c=relaxed/simple; bh=2f+ZUdJo7eaNyi6w734NhSm4Brn3JPykHDVJitND6Y8=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=sQz0DydcDCRmTcv3+c6oSCg6MNfln15g2RJWhOqfO9PcDZC1D5Py2TPZFDIRQiNZeg0pRUdoiqg11MJJRMCQAGk+YoRwBqpBVuJSMQ+4pLlJjyVNRbpEa3gEIbJN0L4tvbrp7oJT5D5H5n9+wxN5zuyRLRVLsgHHblF41qSnbDc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b=oaiRLuTH; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b="oaiRLuTH" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fu-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H7R+rERfOv9YTBin3wtUzSsUav5wS423qYnFZHzW0L8=; t=1747735510; x=1748340310; b=oaiRLuTHTPltxqcKWh7H52Sh1ReiQcyZKhB4AyeUgwLYGDQh1BySFOquijlLI5Te2pQH70d9d8O 9csWh3kFIL/4jzFwNjgcbilYtpfjo54uIegX/Y6q1XXb3nEZct+QIPFlqzZMao2BfB1iVNyRJmkgH tow8Sh1G+5emD3uIRrh9VbTktc9N6At/zTkSnRF4WR/JerGYw0IgvAj3im2C0kJU1hvdAoC9z9d2C uXnuDLffHxyuEa3iTDmhTyOxcUg6IsLyhrjAOqDZs3HE7RlmL3Q3OaHfngZZUH83lN0g6nCes+6md 8LXfYOLjsEWzYPQjXJ3haP78u/IGR83wgqlA==; Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1uHJqN-00000001JGj-1Z7x; Tue, 20 May 2025 12:05:07 +0200 Received: from p5b13afe4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.19.175.228] helo=[192.168.178.61]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1uHJqN-000000042z5-0a12; Tue, 20 May 2025 12:05:07 +0200 Message-ID: <5c9c0b3487a84f5409ea2a83cecaf06c601b51d5.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Finn Thain , Florian Weimer , James Le Cuirot , debian-68k , linux-m68k , Libc-help Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 12:05:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <08ce465732a0eb0dce550978c98ef822abba5f96.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <8734d1kofn.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <3388daa5-8129-e78d-d4bc-d7696cd3a30f@linux-m68k.org> <1ceb208498c53cf8db2acf746a4649f1eaea1457.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <224e0eddab2deb8579e023e5bfc739e7151115d4.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.1 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO On Tue, 2025-05-20 at 11:58 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2025 at 10:38, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > And I also don't understand why this is even an issue. If someone insis= ts > > on using 2 bytes alignment, just stick to your old chroot. If you're no= t >=20 > What about kernel/userland compatibility? What about it? This is about userland. > > interested in new, "fancy" packages, just don't upgrade or install Debi= an > > Etch or similar. Changing the default alignment does not affect existin= g > > software. >=20 > What about existing software that is aware the minimum alignment is > 2-bytes on m68k? Can you name some cases? I would love to add these to my list. Thanks, Adrian --=20 .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913