From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org> To: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com> Cc: debian-68k@lists.debian.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org Subject: Re: core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:05:06 +1000 (AEST) [thread overview] Message-ID: <69f70488-b84d-7c24-d001-529896f3bd34@linux-m68k.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <d6bdf882-9470-4d05-bd3c-36a1f3410fc1@gmail.com> On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Am 02.04.2023 um 21:31 schrieb Finn Thain: > > > >> > >> Maybe an interaction between (multiple?) signals and syscall > >> return... > > > > When running dash from gdb in QEMU, there's only one signal (SIGCHLD) > > and it gets handled before __wait3() returns. (Of course, the "stack > > smashing detected" failure never shows up in QEMU.) > > Might be a clue that we need multiple signals to force the stack > smashing error. And we might not get that in QEMU, due to the faster > execution in emulating on a modern processor. > Right -- being that the failure is intermittent on real hardware, it's not surprising that I can't make it show up in QEMU or Aranym. But no-one has reproduced it on Atari or Amiga hardware yet so I guess it could be a driver issue... I wonder whether anyone else is actually running recent Debian/SID with sysvinit and without a Debian initrd on a Motorola 68030 system. > Thinking a bit more about interactions between signal delivery and > syscall return, it turns out that we don't check for pending signals > when returning from a syscall. That's OK on SMP systems, because we > don't have another process running while we execute the syscall (and we > _do_ run signal handling when scheduling, i.e. when wait4 sleeps or is > woken up)? > > Seems we can forget about that interaction then. > > > > >> depends on how long we sleep in wait4, and whether a signal happens > >> just during that time. > >> > > > > I agree, there seems to be a race condition there. (And dash's > > waitproc() seems to take pains to reap the child and handle the signal > > in any order.) > > Yes, it makes sure the SIGCHLD is seen no matter in what order the > signals are delivered ... > > > I wouldn't be surprised if this race somehow makes the failure rare. > > > > I don't want to recompile any userland binaries at this stage, so it > > would be nice if we could modify the kernel to keep track of exactly > > how that race gets won and lost. Or perhaps there's an easy way to rig > > the outcome one way or the other. > > A race between syscall return due to child exit and signal delivery > seems unlikely, but maybe there is a race between syscall return due to > a timer firing and signal delivery. Are there any timers set to > periodically interrupt wait3? > I searched the source code and SIGALRM appears to be unused by dash. And 'timeout' is not a dash builtin. But that doesn't mean we don't get multiple signals. One crashy script looks like this: TMPFS_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$TMPFS_SIZE")" RUN_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$RUN_SIZE")" LOCK_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$LOCK_SIZE")" SHM_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$SHM_SIZE")" TMP_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$TMP_SIZE")" Is it possible that the SIGCHLD from the first sub-shell got delayed? > > Still no nearer to a solution - something smashes the stack near %sp, > causes the %a3 register restore after __GI___wait4_time64 to return a > wrong pointer to the stack canary, and triggers a stack smashing warning > in this indirect way. But what?? > I've no idea. The actual corruption might offer a clue here. I believe the saved %a3 was clobbered with the value 0xefee1068 which seems to be a pointer into some stack frame that would have come into existence shortly after __GI___wait4_time64 was called. That stack frame is gone by the time the core dump was made. Was it dash's signal handler, onsig(), or some libc subroutine called by __GI___wait4_time64(), or was it something that the kernel put there? Dash's SIGCHLD handler looks safe enough -- I don't see how it could corrupt the saved registers in the __GI___wait4_time64 stack frame (it's not like 1 was stored in the wrong place). https://sources.debian.org/src/dash/0.5.12-2/src/trap.c/?hl=285#L285
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2023-03-28 3:37 ` core dump analysis, was " Finn Thain
2023-03-31 3:33 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-01 9:27 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-01 10:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-02 10:46 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-02 22:01 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-04 0:13 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-04 23:22 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-05 2:00 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-07 1:57 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-07 4:03 ` dash behaviour, was Re: core dump analysis Finn Thain
2023-04-07 12:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-08 5:29 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-09 8:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-09 3:48 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-09 4:42 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-09 4:55 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-09 7:32 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-10 8:12 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-10 9:39 ` kernel behaviour, was Re: dash behaviour Finn Thain
2023-04-11 4:29 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-11 4:50 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-11 7:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-07 12:06 ` core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-09 1:56 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-11 0:20 ` instrumentation, was Re: core dump analysis Finn Thain
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2023-04-11 7:19 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-11 8:24 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-12 23:22 ` Eero Tamminen
2023-04-15 15:50 ` Eero Tamminen
2023-04-15 21:56 ` Brad Boyer
2023-04-14 9:30 ` core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Finn Thain
2023-04-16 1:50 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-16 6:44 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-17 23:32 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-18 2:04 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-18 5:29 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-19 1:50 ` Finn Thain
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2023-04-23 7:46 ` Finn Thain
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2023-04-21 9:18 ` Michael Schmitz
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