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From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-68k@lists.debian.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:05:06 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69f70488-b84d-7c24-d001-529896f3bd34@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6bdf882-9470-4d05-bd3c-36a1f3410fc1@gmail.com>

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, Michael Schmitz wrote:

> Am 02.04.2023 um 21:31 schrieb Finn Thain:
> >
> >>
> >> Maybe an interaction between (multiple?) signals and syscall 
> >> return...
> >
> > When running dash from gdb in QEMU, there's only one signal (SIGCHLD) 
> > and it gets handled before __wait3() returns. (Of course, the "stack 
> > smashing detected" failure never shows up in QEMU.)
> 
> Might be a clue that we need multiple signals to force the stack 
> smashing error. And we might not get that in QEMU, due to the faster 
> execution in emulating on a modern processor.
> 

Right -- being that the failure is intermittent on real hardware, it's not 
surprising that I can't make it show up in QEMU or Aranym.

But no-one has reproduced it on Atari or Amiga hardware yet so I guess it 
could be a driver issue...

I wonder whether anyone else is actually running recent Debian/SID with 
sysvinit and without a Debian initrd on a Motorola 68030 system.

> Thinking a bit more about interactions between signal delivery and 
> syscall return, it turns out that we don't check for pending signals 
> when returning from a syscall. That's OK on SMP systems, because we 
> don't have another process running while we execute the syscall (and we 
> _do_ run signal handling when scheduling, i.e. when wait4 sleeps or is 
> woken up)?
> 
> Seems we can forget about that interaction then.
> 
> >
> >> depends on how long we sleep in wait4, and whether a signal happens 
> >> just during that time.
> >>
> >
> > I agree, there seems to be a race condition there. (And dash's 
> > waitproc() seems to take pains to reap the child and handle the signal 
> > in any order.)
> 
> Yes, it makes sure the SIGCHLD is seen no matter in what order the 
> signals are delivered ...
> 
> > I wouldn't be surprised if this race somehow makes the failure rare.
> >
> > I don't want to recompile any userland binaries at this stage, so it 
> > would be nice if we could modify the kernel to keep track of exactly 
> > how that race gets won and lost. Or perhaps there's an easy way to rig 
> > the outcome one way or the other.
> 
> A race between syscall return due to child exit and signal delivery 
> seems unlikely, but maybe there is a race between syscall return due to 
> a timer firing and signal delivery. Are there any timers set to 
> periodically interrupt wait3?
> 

I searched the source code and SIGALRM appears to be unused by dash. And 
'timeout' is not a dash builtin. But that doesn't mean we don't get 
multiple signals. One crashy script looks like this:

TMPFS_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$TMPFS_SIZE")"
RUN_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$RUN_SIZE")"
LOCK_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$LOCK_SIZE")"
SHM_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$SHM_SIZE")"
TMP_SIZE="$(tmpfs_size_vm "$TMP_SIZE")"

Is it possible that the SIGCHLD from the first sub-shell got delayed?

> 
> Still no nearer to a solution - something smashes the stack near %sp, 
> causes the %a3 register restore after __GI___wait4_time64 to return a 
> wrong pointer to the stack canary, and triggers a stack smashing warning 
> in this indirect way. But what??
> 

I've no idea.

The actual corruption might offer a clue here. I believe the saved %a3 was 
clobbered with the value 0xefee1068 which seems to be a pointer into some 
stack frame that would have come into existence shortly after 
__GI___wait4_time64 was called. That stack frame is gone by the time the 
core dump was made. Was it dash's signal handler, onsig(), or some libc 
subroutine called by __GI___wait4_time64(), or was it something that the 
kernel put there?

Dash's SIGCHLD handler looks safe enough -- I don't see how it could 
corrupt the saved registers in the __GI___wait4_time64 stack frame (it's 
not like 1 was stored in the wrong place). 
https://sources.debian.org/src/dash/0.5.12-2/src/trap.c/?hl=285#L285

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-04  4:02 UTC|newest]

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2023-01-30 10:12   ` stack smashing detected Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-31  3:05   ` Michael Schmitz
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2023-03-28  3:37                                           ` core dump analysis, was " Finn Thain
2023-03-31  3:33                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-01  9:27                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-01 10:11                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-02 10:46                                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-04-02 22:01                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-04  0:13                                                       ` Finn Thain
2023-04-04 23:22                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-05  2:00                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-04-07  1:57                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-07  4:03                                                               ` dash behaviour, was Re: core dump analysis Finn Thain
2023-04-07 12:10                                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-08  5:29                                                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-04-09  8:30                                                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-09  3:48                                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-09  4:42                                                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-04-09  4:55                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-09  7:32                                                                       ` Finn Thain
2023-04-10  8:12                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-10  9:39                                                                           ` kernel behaviour, was Re: dash behaviour Finn Thain
2023-04-11  4:29                                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-11  4:50                                                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-11  7:21                                                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-07 12:06                                                               ` core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-09  1:56                                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-11  0:20                                                                   ` instrumentation, was Re: core dump analysis Finn Thain
2023-04-11  4:56                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-11  5:54                                                                       ` Finn Thain
2023-04-11  7:19                                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-11  8:24                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-12 23:22                                                                           ` Eero Tamminen
2023-04-15 15:50                                                                             ` Eero Tamminen
2023-04-15 21:56                                                                               ` Brad Boyer
2023-04-14  9:30                                                             ` core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Finn Thain
2023-04-16  1:50                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-16  6:44                                                                 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-17 23:32                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-18  2:04                                                                     ` Finn Thain
2023-04-18  5:29                                                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-19  1:50                                                                         ` Finn Thain
2023-04-19  8:15                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-23  7:46                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-23 21:26                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-19 10:50                                                                         ` reliable reproducer, was Re: core dump analysis Finn Thain
2023-04-19 11:55                                                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-20  1:02                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  0:55                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-20  2:57                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  4:08                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-20  5:17                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  5:48                                                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  7:34                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-20  7:47                                                                                 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  8:23                                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-20  8:55                                                                                     ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20 21:58                                                                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-21  1:45                                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-21  5:52                                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-21  8:30                                                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-04-21  9:18                                                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22  7:54                                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22  8:07                                                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-22  8:16                                                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22 10:12                                                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-22 18:24                                                                                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22 18:38                                                                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-22 20:06                                                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22 20:46                                                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-23  1:41                                                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-23  7:37                                                                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-23  8:18                                                                                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-23  8:23                                                                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-23 20:19                                                                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-23 21:48                                                                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-24  3:51                                                                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-24  5:46                                                                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-23  9:23                                                                                                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-04-23 20:43                                                                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-24 23:44                                                                                                                       ` Finn Thain
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2023-04-25  1:55                                                                                                                                 ` signal delivery, was Re: reliable reproducer Finn Thain
2023-04-25  2:32                                                                                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-25  5:59                                                                                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26 19:45                                                                                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
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2023-04-29  0:28                                                                                                                                                       ` Finn Thain
2023-04-29  0:53                                                                                                                                                         ` Finn Thain
2023-04-29  2:53                                                                                                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-29  5:03                                                                                                                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-04-29  6:01                                                                                                                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-29  6:13                                                                                                                                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-29  6:43                                                                                                                                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-29  6:05                                                                                                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-29  7:11                                                                                                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-29  7:37                                                                                                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-25  9:26                                                                                                                                   ` Eero Tamminen
2023-04-25 11:25                                                                                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-25 19:46                                                                                                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26  1:54                                                                                                                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26  3:27                                                                                                                                         ` Finn Thain
2023-04-26  3:56                                                                                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26  4:53                                                                                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2023-04-26  2:02                                                                                                                                       ` Finn Thain
2023-04-26  4:00                                                                                                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26  4:42                                                                                                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-04-26  9:10                                                                                                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-26 21:48                                                                                                                                               ` Brad Boyer
2023-04-26  8:31                                                                                                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-25 11:53                                                                                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-26  1:59                                                                                                                                     ` Finn Thain
2023-04-25  5:18                                                                                                       ` reliable reproducer, was Re: core dump analysis Michael Schmitz
2023-04-22  9:00                                                                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-21  1:15                                                                                 ` Finn Thain
2023-04-21  1:57                                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-21  1:39                                                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  6:04                                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-04-20  7:40                                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-20  7:58                                                                               ` Finn Thain
2023-04-02  4:09                                                 ` core dump analysis, was Re: stack smashing detected Michael Schmitz
2023-04-02  9:31                                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-04-03  8:26                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-04-04  4:05                                                       ` Finn Thain [this message]
2023-04-04 11:05                                                         ` Finn Thain
2023-04-09  4:02                                                           ` Finn Thain
2023-02-03 23:39       ` Finn Thain
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2023-02-05 22:29           ` Debian initramfs/initrd, was " Finn Thain
2023-02-05 23:18             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
     [not found]               ` <8107e04f-fd60-c6e3-2bad-cc0d99877967@yahoo.com>
2023-02-06  7:52                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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