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([2001:df0:0:200c:a422:b23c:53c7:43fb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-210bc012fb6sm53960185ad.138.2024.10.28.11.57.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <832d65f2-1796-4ac1-b49b-380bf64700f4@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 07:57:43 +1300 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Plan needed for switching m68k to 32-bit alignment To: Arnd Bergmann , John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , linux-m68k Cc: debian-68k , James Le Cuirot , Sam James , Geert Uytterhoeven , Andreas Schwab , Thorsten Glaser References: <3a5e171bf42e5273eb8235cba04e8328b19c2ca4.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <383faec7-8987-4680-920d-8f802e1bea34@app.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Michael Schmitz In-Reply-To: <383faec7-8987-4680-920d-8f802e1bea34@app.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Arnd, On 25/10/24 22:55, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > I also expect that a lot of users (of m68k kernels) are > never going to get the benefits as they are already stuck on > older userspace because of added bloat in new software > releases. I assume you have better understanding than me > of what m68k hardware is commonly used these days, and > how constrained that is in practice. I second that - currently bisecting to find out what makes my extremely RAM constrained m68k system fail to boot or run anything past 6.9-rc4 (sysvinit, not systemd). Much as I appreciate Adrian's efforts to keep up with user space development, I won't be in a position to help with an ABI change. Cheers,     Michael