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From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>
Cc: William R Sowerbutts <will@sowerbutts.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-m68k <linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 6.4.4 on m68k - Q40 - pata_falcon causes oops at boot time
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:22:29 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <997f0ff1-865d-29fb-ef65-2bb693549da8@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d01db1e6-a0ae-559c-ab64-b3a2f5b60324@gmail.com>


On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, Michael Schmitz wrote:

> Thanks William,
> 
> On 24/07/23 23:42, William R Sowerbutts wrote:
> >> I was left with the impression that the Q40 does not actually have the IDE
> >> controller on the ISA bus.
> > This is mistaken.
> >
> > IDE is definitely accessed over the ISA bus.
> >
> > There is some documentation on the Q40/Q60 hardware here:
> > http://www.q40.de/download/harddoc.pdf
> Noted - hadn't seen this one before.
> >
> > The motherboard integrates the CPU, DRAM, video DRAM and display controller,
> > audio DACs, RTC, interrupt controller, keyboard controller, and an LED
> > output.
> 
> No disk controller on the main board - that's where my error originated.
> 
> Note that this also means that the address hardcoded for IDE may be 
> incorrect (AFAIR, IDE cards could have their IO base reassigned by 
> firmware).
> 
> > There are two ISA slots where all other I/O devices are connected. These are
> > described (concisely!) on page 7 of the linked manual:
> >
> > 8-bit ISA I/O cycles are performed for CPU byte accesses to 0xFF400001 + 4 *
> > ISA address
> >
> > 16-bit ISA I/O cycles are performed for CPU word accesses to 0xFF400000 + 4
> > * ISA address
> >
> > 8-bit ISA memory cycles are performed for CPU byte accesses to 0xFF800001 +
> > 4 * ISA address
> >
> > 16-bit ISA memory cycles are performed for CPU word accesses to 0xFF800000 +
> > 4 * ISA address
> Yep, that much is evident from the Q40 address translation scheme. But a 
> similar sort of scheme is used on other m68k platforms to wire up 
> peripherals that were originally designed for Intel systems, and these 
> are not connected through an ISA bus.

I can't figure out why those platforms don't suffer from the same "double 
translation" problem that William described on q40.

> > I understand that the machines originally shipped with a 16-bit ISA card
> > based on the W83787IF "PC super I/O" chip, integrating a floppy controller,
> > IDE interface, game port, parallel port, and two 16550A UARTs.
> OK.
> >
> > My Q40 came without this card, so I am using a card based on the similar
> > W83757 chip (the serial ports are 16450 instead of 16550A, it doesn't
> > support
> > the fancy EPP/ECP parallel port modes).
> >
> >>>> It might be a good idea to verify that IDE works in v5.13
> >>> Yes, please do.
> > It did.
> >
> >> And please also verify it's broken after 44b1fbc0f5f30e66 was applied.
> > I will try to do that!
> 
> Probably just try v5.14 - in my tree, 44b1fbc0f5f30e66 came on top of 5.13-rc2
> so 5.14 ought to have it applied (but rather check, just the same).
> 

If git is an obstacle, one may obtain the 44b1fbc0f5f30e66 tree (as 
easily as the v5.14 tree) by clicking the 'download' button here: 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=44b1fbc0f5f30e66

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-26  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <ZLvZmVfzJNHlPTlJ@sowerbutts.com>
2023-07-23  8:35 ` Linux 6.4.4 on m68k - Q40 - pata_falcon causes oops at boot time Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-23  9:59   ` Finn Thain
2023-07-23 15:28     ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-07-24  1:43       ` Finn Thain
2023-07-24 11:09         ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-07-26  7:22           ` Finn Thain
2023-07-23 20:26     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-24 11:42       ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-07-24 20:26         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-26  9:22           ` Finn Thain [this message]
2023-07-26 20:13             ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-27  1:16               ` Finn Thain
2023-07-27  3:17                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-27 23:47                   ` Finn Thain
2023-07-28  7:21                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-28  7:52                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-28  8:03                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-29  4:56                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-13  3:06                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-13  7:38                       ` Finn Thain
2023-08-13 21:20                         ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-13 22:24                         ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-08-13 22:54                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-13 23:37                             ` Finn Thain
2023-08-14  0:33                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-14  1:15                                 ` Finn Thain
2023-08-14  2:48                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-14 11:18                             ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-08-14 20:15                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-14 20:24                                 ` Richard Z
2023-08-14 23:31                                   ` Finn Thain
2023-08-15  3:05                                     ` Richard Z
2023-08-15  3:30                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-15  9:49                                         ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-08-15 10:42                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-15 20:43                                             ` Richard Z
2023-08-15 20:13                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-15 22:10                                             ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-08-15 22:38                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-14 20:19                               ` Richard Z
2023-08-14 21:22                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-08-15 11:04                                   ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-08-16 17:56                           ` William R Sowerbutts
2023-07-27  7:18               ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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