From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: port-m68k <port-m68k@netbsd.org>,
debian-68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 14:48:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8yC8=iVc46vN-aq671r7utpwJjWERRDS3FKEkurFfe7cWiBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e22c54a868bb70825aa3f91084742fded97470d6.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de>
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 2:23 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2025-05-26 at 14:16 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > I don't know about the 64 byte alignment on NetBSD. Maybe it was
> > copied/pasted/modified from amd64? amd64 has a BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT of 64
> > due to AVX512. Prior to that, I believe amd64 had a BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT
> > of 32 due to AVX. (These were due to the aligned loads, like
> > _mm256_load_epi32 (32-byte requirement) or _mm512_load_epi32 (64-byte
> > requirement)).
> >
> > For PowerPC with Altivec, I believe BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT should be 16.
> >
> > I don't know if __ALTIVEC__ plays a part in BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT. That
> > is, should BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT be 4 (for int) or 8 (for doubles) unless
> > __ALTIVEC__ is defined; and if __ALTIVEC__ is defined, then
> > BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT should be 16.
>
> The alignment is specified in bits here, not bytes. Hence a BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT
> of 64 means 8 bytes, not 64 bytes.
Derp...
Maybe the 64-bits/8-bytes is coming from limitations in the linker.
See the discussion of __BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT__ at
<https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Variable-Attributes.html>:
On some systems, the linker is only able to arrange for variables to
be aligned up to a certain maximum alignment. (For some linkers, the
maximum supported alignment may be very very small.) If your linker
is only able to align variables up to a maximum of 8-byte alignment,
then specifying aligned(16) in an __attribute__ still only provides
you with 8-byte alignment.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-26 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-26 15:05 Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-26 18:16 ` Jeffrey Walton
2025-05-26 18:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-26 18:48 ` Jeffrey Walton [this message]
2025-05-26 18:25 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-05-26 18:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 6:24 ` Jean-Michel Hautbois
2025-06-05 6:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 6:50 ` Jean-Michel Hautbois
2025-06-05 6:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 7:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-05 7:36 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-05 8:49 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-05 10:33 ` Martin Husemann
2025-06-06 7:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-07 9:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-06 10:20 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-07 9:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 9:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 10:02 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-07 11:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 12:55 ` Anders Magnusson
2025-06-07 13:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 13:53 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 13:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 14:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 14:54 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:19 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-07 15:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 15:51 ` John Klos
2025-06-07 16:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 18:43 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-07 21:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-06-07 23:06 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-10 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:31 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-08 1:10 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-08 11:47 ` Martin Husemann
2025-06-10 11:20 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-10 11:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:32 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-10 11:26 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 1:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-11 3:04 ` Stan Johnson
2025-06-11 7:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-11 15:32 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-11 15:49 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 14:54 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 1:36 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 10:56 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 11:12 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 0:58 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 11:22 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:21 ` John Klos
2025-06-13 13:33 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 20:10 ` Debian boot/login time Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 1:13 ` Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k Finn Thain
2025-06-12 1:54 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-12 7:18 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 10:00 ` Jason Thorpe
[not found] ` <CABq5eXH8S9MVoRi5znU+u7EJPmaRA+8yOyd-QKBJMQa10UoAmw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-12 7:27 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-12 8:19 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 11:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:06 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-12 8:25 ` Administrator @ R·V·E
2025-06-12 13:06 ` Christian Groessler
2025-06-13 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 12:21 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 12:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 15:39 ` Preliminary results - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-22 22:13 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-23 6:34 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-23 7:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 11:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 12:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 12:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-13 12:51 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:34 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-15 9:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 6:48 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 13:01 ` ALeX Kazik
2025-06-14 1:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 14:15 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-13 14:53 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-13 15:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-14 7:21 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 1:42 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-15 8:13 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 9:30 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-16 7:31 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 3:50 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 9:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 9:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 9:49 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 9:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 10:04 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 10:51 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 12:21 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-18 12:27 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 12:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-18 12:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 12:59 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-18 22:29 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-19 0:18 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-19 5:31 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-19 5:56 ` Greg Ungerer
2025-06-19 15:57 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-18 22:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-16 6:33 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 7:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 8:00 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 8:14 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 8:32 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 8:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 9:07 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:00 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:10 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 9:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:26 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 9:32 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 9:45 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 10:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 10:51 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 11:01 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:05 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 11:10 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-16 11:16 ` Laurent Vivier
2025-06-16 14:44 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-16 14:43 ` Jason Thorpe
2025-06-16 15:17 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 3:19 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-18 9:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-18 22:16 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 19:29 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 7:51 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 10:39 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-14 11:20 ` John Klos
2025-06-15 8:05 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-15 9:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-16 6:42 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-14 1:29 ` Finn Thain
2025-06-13 16:26 ` David Brownlee
2025-06-16 6:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
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