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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	 James Le Cuirot <chewi@aura-online.co.uk>,
	debian-68k <debian-68k@lists.debian.org>,
	 linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>,
	Libc-help <libc-help@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:24:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWMJKbd-Nfe6yWc_XE56KFmffnJ3T9AhNgUZ4=m9UGSeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ceb208498c53cf8db2acf746a4649f1eaea1457.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de>

Hi Adrian,

On Tue, 20 May 2025 at 09:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-05-20 at 07:59 +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 May 2025, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > > My argument is that Linux/m68k is a pure hobbyist project and anyone
> > > involved can deal with the changes coming from the alignment change.
> >
> > If hobbyists can deal with ABI breakage, they can certainly deal with the
> > longstanding lack of fancy toolchains and toolkits*.
>
> Being able to build the build dependencies of cmake or parts of GCC such
> as gccgo is not something I would consider "fancy". Furthermore, more and
> more packages are being ported to Rust which means m68k will either die
> a long death or have to switch to 4 bytes alignment.

Is this a Rust or LLVM issue?
In case of the latter, how is llvm-mos coping?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e9035006d50933fb02727fa373629cc821784f6c.camel@aura-online.co.uk>
2023-08-26 10:51 ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-26 19:24   ` Richard
2023-08-26 20:43     ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-28  6:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 10:57     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:11       ` Richard
2023-08-28 12:22         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 12:46         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-27  0:46   ` Finn Thain
2023-08-27  9:20     ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-27 11:27       ` Richard
2023-08-28  7:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:26         ` Richard
2023-08-28 11:40           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 20:16           ` Richard
2023-08-29  6:52             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28  6:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 11:13       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29  1:12         ` Finn Thain
2023-08-28 11:10     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 12:44       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-08-28 12:50         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-28 13:17           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-29 10:51             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 15:27               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 13:29           ` James Le Cuirot
2023-08-29 10:54             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-08-29 21:53               ` Karoly Balogh
2023-08-30  1:33                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-08-29  1:14       ` Finn Thain
2023-08-29  8:52         ` Eero Tamminen
2024-05-15 17:08   ` Python requires 32-bit alignment now - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18  7:09 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-18 14:39   ` Antonio Vargas Gonzalez
2025-05-18 15:07     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  7:42       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  7:54         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2025-05-19  8:18             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:25               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  8:43                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19  8:07           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-19  8:14   ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-19  8:24     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:51       ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-20  9:39         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  9:15           ` James Le Cuirot
2025-05-21  9:19             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-19 21:59       ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  7:55         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  8:24           ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2025-05-20  8:37             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:46               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  9:56                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:58               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:05                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 10:09                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-05-20 10:12                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 22:13                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  0:29               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  1:59                 ` John Klos
2025-05-21  5:18                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-26  5:25                     ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  7:28                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21  9:56                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 14:09                   ` Debian subset suitable for m68k (was: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int) Eero Tamminen
2025-05-21 17:54                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21 22:14                       ` Eero Tamminen
2025-06-17  7:02                   ` Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17  7:25                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17  7:40                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17  9:48                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17  9:59                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 10:13                             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-06-17 11:21                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-17 11:37                                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:39           ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20  9:43             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20  9:55               ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 10:18                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-20 11:03                   ` Finn Thain
2025-05-20 11:13                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-05-21  0:14                       ` Finn Thain
2025-05-21 17:36 John Klos
2025-05-21 23:50 ` Finn Thain

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