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[209.85.222.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 71dfb90a1353d-52dbab6d2f0sm8065380e0c.44.2025.05.20.01.24.49 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 May 2025 01:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-f43.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-86f9c719d63so999631241.1 for ; Tue, 20 May 2025 01:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV/0l3j/rnKpTMm8EHrz+nhyTlpoXXftQv2p/OTUWz6qBjNh43MbSoPI7d2GAiIf9B37hm+GbWRC4TR@vger.kernel.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:91a:b0:4c1:8928:cefb with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-4dfa6b9ca16mr13153872137.12.1747729489350; Tue, 20 May 2025 01:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <08ce465732a0eb0dce550978c98ef822abba5f96.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <8734d1kofn.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <3388daa5-8129-e78d-d4bc-d7696cd3a30f@linux-m68k.org> <1ceb208498c53cf8db2acf746a4649f1eaea1457.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <1ceb208498c53cf8db2acf746a4649f1eaea1457.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:24:37 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFteAdnd16f03UvcV3TLwqZP469dMyKd4Zqjs_uftPDjErPQgYfWw7jK0GA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Cc: Finn Thain , Florian Weimer , James Le Cuirot , debian-68k , linux-m68k , Libc-help Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Adrian, On Tue, 20 May 2025 at 09:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, 2025-05-20 at 07:59 +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > > On Mon, 19 May 2025, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > My argument is that Linux/m68k is a pure hobbyist project and anyone > > > involved can deal with the changes coming from the alignment change. > > > > If hobbyists can deal with ABI breakage, they can certainly deal with the > > longstanding lack of fancy toolchains and toolkits*. > > Being able to build the build dependencies of cmake or parts of GCC such > as gccgo is not something I would consider "fancy". Furthermore, more and > more packages are being ported to Rust which means m68k will either die > a long death or have to switch to 4 bytes alignment. Is this a Rust or LLVM issue? In case of the latter, how is llvm-mos coping? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds