From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7419F1D958B for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2024 07:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1730102138; cv=none; b=p5egAZoY3pf3FrWF6YQYYAjwc9CGXVgYWFRZEviGiI+m1xA3WOvRdjFyjLwI2ugTEWtI0VFpWH91IaKZx1C4uZW23LfmQrfMgemMxRr7OkbBa5dN7goXf1JnZMoaTpx14O9rE1HZ06L346BgtgDrtn9HBeJJbU4H44zS2j4Khng= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1730102138; c=relaxed/simple; bh=xh88wrBlnq2CmJfzE2SgR57p64A/J1/qa98zBdGjDA8=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=CWmTgj162Aj6oKTkiNSLRWQVL1gnT4sOYbJztjzy4izCXz4dXLiJcC4Jied8LS/R5NAR3fbvyXigA8azcSie0VzdCRgtrhA5i6RQN/apamkNRrE/k4F6AY1HgymbrDHvRwbsjbmviBi4bUmTvIr62i9q9wdqkOpyN6UZT8GzSKA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b=qLo+aapn; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b="qLo+aapn" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fu-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=W4BwdqgirLWBe7yoMjxKGd5NHF2mEM+U1kRqMDIDi6Q=; t=1730102135; x=1730706935; b=qLo+aapnfP6zt9HJybW5tp3IvYdFqVfevPvw0fuibV1ACc2UbQkQNNRNS+n1wWxCG2+daUbbma2 tMngS8Cga4HXXxeg43c54KoCnXX4SlR7IQtqFhBuMQoVXY3Lm/vrf5ELnyFoMpmlD16KVaJLb/vR3 k+eJShEfRivKiwk7nvPUa7+5XTjDXpi/chXPnnSj4xE6j5L9tx/FlzBarw1asszftByG1LhkV3ykO p8kRY2C39JIG3wnL+sneUQVOexQxDk/P0L/5fJKiGuoFBpOV9rDAFz4rpTdY1nfpmBDDJJotTNqcu zmfn0iYecxKiTqWWAdZ8FrjqeUYDyqqDs3kQ==; Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1t5Kb7-000000048hc-24Wq; Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:55:33 +0100 Received: from p57bd904e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.189.144.78] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.98) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1t5Kb7-00000002BSR-18g6; Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:55:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plan needed for switching m68k to 32-bit alignment From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz To: Finn Thain , Thorsten Glaser Cc: linux-m68k , debian-68k , James Le Cuirot , Sam James , Geert Uytterhoeven , Andreas Schwab , Arnd Bergmann Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:55:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <3a5e171bf42e5273eb8235cba04e8328b19c2ca4.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <5e8917a2-b7c4-6c06-e63f-1f05eea32120@mirbsd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.54.1 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO On Sun, 2024-10-27 at 17:16 +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > Right. And I don't think the problem is going to go away. One solution= =20 > that is sometimes raised is better tooling. I'm not sure how that would= =20 > work. Perhaps a better solution would be language changes to allow a=20 > struct definition to be qualified with an explicit data model. This is a pure academic discussion and not leading anywhere. Adrian > > >=20 --=20 .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913