From: Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: spinlock recursion when running q800 emulation in qemu
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:51:33 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afcd0605-49e4-49c6-90a3-2d5b6a2cbf78@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <745f844f-a100-5f38-99b3-97ace157b2a2@linux-m68k.org>
Hi Finn,
On 11/03/24 21:35, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Michael Schmitz wrote:
>
>> Looping over 178 boots (using init=/sbin/reboot), I see eight of the
>> spinlock recursion messages in ARAnyM on my old PowerBook G4:
>>
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, swapper/1
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, swapper/1
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, pool_workqueue_/3
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, swapper/2
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, pool_workqueue_/3
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, pool_workqueue_/3
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, swapper/2
>> BUG: spinlock recursion on CPU#0, pool_workqueue_/3
>>
> Not the reliable reproducer I was hoping for but it is progress. We now
> know the problem shows up in both Aranym and Qemu.
Yep - no large impact by dropping the CPU clock (and BogoMIPS) by half
though. One boot in sixteen shows the recursion message now.
Still running the test with local_irq_save() / local_irq_restore()
protecting the spinlock debug tests.
>
>> Trying the same on a much faster Intel system, no messages are seen.
>> I'll try locking the PowerBook on half CPU clock rate next.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The tests on unlocking certainly aren't atomic, but those are not the
>> ones we see in the messages. The test on locking use READ_ONCE() so
>> ought to be safe.
>>
>> The locking primitives are not atomic at all, by design ('No atomicity
>> anywhere, we are on UP'. While not debugging, spinlocks are NOPs on UP.)
>>
> I think spin_lock() reduces to preempt_disable() on UP.
> In include/linux/spinlock_api_up.h it says,
>
> /*
> * In the UP-nondebug case there's no real locking going on, so the
> * only thing we have to do is to keep the preempt counts and irq
> * flags straight, to suppress compiler warnings of unused lock
> * variables, and to add the proper checker annotations:
> */
That's only true in the debug case - there, preempt_disable() is used
inside the spin loop. But m68k is one of the last CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE
archs AFAIR, and preempt_disable() reduces to barrier() on those.
>> I wonder whether CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK was ever meant to work at all on UP?
>>
> I've no idea, sorry. The people who would be able to help would be found
> in MAINTAINERS in the "LOCKING PRIMITIVES" section.
I'll ask around once I've done a few more tests.
Cheers,
Michael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-12 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-04 17:58 spinlock recursion when running q800 emulation in qemu Guenter Roeck
2024-03-05 0:33 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-05 0:48 ` Michael Schmitz
[not found] ` <fcb506f2-523d-4efc-ae3d-fe3c79c6f09e@gmail.com>
2024-03-05 0:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-05 1:06 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-06 7:14 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-06 8:30 ` Brad Boyer
2024-03-06 23:13 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-06 23:46 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-07 23:35 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-06 23:42 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-06 23:52 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-08 0:20 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-08 0:56 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-08 8:06 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-08 9:15 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-08 9:33 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-08 20:14 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-09 5:02 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-09 20:56 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-09 22:18 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-11 7:06 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-11 8:35 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-12 0:51 ` Michael Schmitz [this message]
2024-03-12 7:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-03-12 20:14 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-13 0:16 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-13 4:39 ` Preemption (was: Re: spinlock recursion when running q800 emulation in qemu) Michael Schmitz
2024-03-13 4:40 ` spinlock recursion when running q800 emulation in qemu Finn Thain
2024-03-13 5:34 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-14 0:59 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-15 4:32 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-15 7:24 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-18 6:24 ` Michael Schmitz
2024-03-18 9:31 ` Finn Thain
2024-03-20 1:00 ` Michael Schmitz
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