Re: Question on BIGGEST_ALIGNMENT in GCC on NetBSD/m68k

[Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>]

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

> 
> Honest question, Finn: Why are you even participating in this discussion 
> when you're neither willing to acknowledge the problem nor willing to 
> help address it?
> 

You and I don't discuss much; you ignore most of what I've said, then tell 
me that what I said is off-topic. LOL.

> Do you think that you just need to bombard me with repeated statements 
> that I am going to change my mind over something that I have chewed over 
> for so long?
> 

You're quite right, I need to stop responding to repeated nonsense -- I 
will quit it.

> I think everyone in this thread has now understood that you are neither 
> willing to help resolve these issues nor are you willing to accept my 
> preferred solution that Gentoo and I are already working on.
> 

I've no idea who "everyone" is... but I'm speaking both to those 
participating in this thread and to those who know better.

As for "unwilling to help", I help where I see a need.

As for solutions, well, you have one, but you'd create more problems than 
you'd solve.

> So, what's the deal with your continued engagement?
> 

I'm not here to stop you exercising whatever power you've garnered over 
whatever domain you've claimed. (No wonder you're baffled by my presence.)

I'm here to bell the cat. What you're doing is harmful. Forking the 
packages that make up your distribution is harmful and so is fragmenting 
the ABI.

You can't improve Debian by refusing to acknowledge it's limitations. You 
can't improve the Debian experience by railroading users. You can't 
improve upstream codebases by papering over their mistakes. You can't 
improve collaboration by ignoring the advice of upstream toolchain and 
kernel developers. You can't have a stable ABI without consensus. You 
can't improve the long term prospects for the Linux/m68k project until you 
understood how it got to where it was when you arrived.

So to answer your fine question, Adrian, I continue to engage out of hope 
that you will finally realize that there are better ways to serve the 
community than the path you're on.