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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Cristian Rodríguez" <crrodriguez@opensuse.org>
Cc: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add example to rand.3
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 22:18:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07f63ec3-8b0b-4720-daa7-d46a0dd36860@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPBLoAdEbaH8yi_T=_BNAcgwE7=Pq+7QybwfHXNB92QFdx0XPQ@mail.gmail.com>


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On 12/28/22 22:04, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 5:57 PM Alejandro Colomar via Libc-alpha
> <libc-alpha@sourceware.org> wrote:
> 
>> Ahh, I didn't connect the dots the other day!  We don't need to wait for glibc.
>> libbsd already provides arc4random on GNU/Linux systems, so I can already
>> recommend using arc4random to seed srand(3).
>>
>> I'll prepare a patch...
>>
> 
> I would suggest avoiding that, as it suffers from all the problems
> previously discussed on this list , on the relevant arc4random thread
> 
> tl;dr , it can't be safe without kernel support, as you need to know
> when to drop the buffer. (on fork, on resume plus on $deity knows
> condition for which there is no kernel notification about)

Maybe I'd remove the SEE ALSO reference to arc4random(3bsd) then, so that I 
don't "recommend" using it.  I'll add arc4random(3) to SEE ALSO when we have a 
manual page for the function.

-- 
<http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-28 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-26 21:50 [PATCH] Add example to rand.3 Jonny Grant
2022-12-26 22:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-27 13:07   ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-27 23:33     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28  0:00       ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-28  0:41         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 12:21           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-30 18:15             ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 18:20               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 18:50                 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 18:58                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 19:11               ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-30 21:08                 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 21:15                   ` Internal organization of "the implementation" (was: [PATCH] Add example to rand.3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 21:50                     ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-27 21:37   ` [PATCH] Add example to rand.3 Jonny Grant
2022-12-27 23:11     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 20:51       ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 20:56         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:03           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:04             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:25               ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 21:32                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:04           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-28 21:11             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:19               ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 21:18             ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]

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