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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Dumazet
	<eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dinakar Guniguntala
	<dino-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	John Kacur <jkacur-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Futex manpages out of date
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:14:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1263575691.4244.446.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B50A228.8070401-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 09:13 -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:58 -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
> >> The futex man-pages (2,7) from version 3.15-1 and at least a few earlier
> >> versions are considerably out of date with respect to the current
> >> implementation. They don't document newer op codes, such as:
> >>
> >> FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET
> >> FUTEX_WAKE_BITSET
> >> FUTEX_WAKE_OP
> >> FUTEX_LOCK_PI
> >> FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
> >> FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> >> FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI
> >>
> >> These new wait op codes now use absolute timeouts, while the original
> >> FUTEX_WAIT uses a relative timeout. Lastly, and most importantly, glibc
> >> has removed the futex() wrapper to syscall(SYS_futex, ...). With that in
> >> mind, would people prefer that we simply remove the futex man-pages
> >> (2,7)?
> > 
> > A readable text about the interaction between the futex value and the
> > various futex ops and how to build proper locking primitives with them
> > would be helpful I think, however doing that in the form of a locking
> > library (as has been suggested at KS) seems plenty fine to me.
> > 
> > Readable code is much better than rambling English at conveying this
> > stuff.
> 
> Perhaps as part of futex-test? An example set of locking primitives 
> would be a good way to test the syscall independently of glibc...

Sure, and if that ever grows into what benh wants then we're good I
think ;-)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-15 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-15 16:58 Futex manpages out of date Darren Hart
     [not found] ` <4B509EA1.8060509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-15 17:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-15 17:13     ` Darren Hart
     [not found]       ` <4B50A228.8070401-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-15 17:14         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-01-18 16:40     ` Petr Baudis
     [not found]       ` <20100118164000.GK2249-DDGJ70k9y3lX+M3pkMnKjw@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-18 16:51         ` Darren Hart
2010-01-18 17:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 17:23           ` Darren Hart

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