From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Lennart Poettering
<mzxreary-uLTowLwuiw4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>,
akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
roland-/Z5OmTQCD9xF6kxbq+BtvQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:48:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313714913.29251.7.camel@mop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyFnMRMuWSSpytwvpk9u5YysMRfTRELyhGX9grWbGyi6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 15:22 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > It will be used for all new service managers. UNIX is a pain if you want
> > to watch your children regarding double-forking, if you are not init.
>
> I'll believe that "all new service managers" when I see it. Until
> then, a new feature is just that - a new feature. Which nobody uses.
That feature will be used in Fedora 17 if we get that properly working.
Promised!
So far we have a pretty good track record in immediately using the stuff
we add to the kernel. People working on the other side usually complain
that we always require such new kernels. :)
> > If you want, we can make the forked processes inherit a flag if the
> > 'subreaper' should be looked up at all. Then we have almost zero
> > overhead if the feature isn't used. You think that's needed?
>
> Yes, I do. Because with any current system, that "almost zero
> overhead" is just totally wasted effort entirely for zero gain. Which
> just makes me go "Eww".
Yeah, understood. I'll change it with the next round, and we can see how
to go from there.
Thanks,
Kay
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2011-08-16 20:11 + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision.patch added to -mm tree akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b
[not found] ` <201108162011.p7GKBcY0023134-AB4EexQrvXRQetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 11:55 ` + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch " Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817115543.GA8745-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817130531.GA12204-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:21 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP10A4rcQLht--h1d3PJE=oOrm=MSjGXTUSKVF+ssnkt_gw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:37 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20110817143728.7abc955b-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-23 0:30 ` Colin Walters
2011-08-17 14:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17 13:13 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP12rYf2HmmsJAuJw=nrtcjTRR1WzDhLNM47eKhKA1UTfJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817134516.GA14136-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 15:45 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP101N_GESzpqu=P_H8cLoekMzb2_W2eWyAqATSjm4Gj9CA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817162041.GA21406-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 16:47 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP13Dn2c-OnYg-Cty5r4JbqeH_zYPtXDj5GAfK1btoKYmDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817185709.GA27663-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 20:56 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 12:43 ` Lennart Poettering
[not found] ` <20110818124353.GA2839-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 18:11 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 18:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110818184857.GA12094-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 1:31 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110819122503.GA8411-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 12:44 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP11KC2fTWBVYo6CBXe924YAyTGhx9=UTBDf4cP5Acuo0NA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 14:20 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110819145815.GA15420-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-21 18:33 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-22 11:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110822111402.GA13248-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-22 23:48 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFxGDbNOhNQJe_LpUMcJCGcW8qFFWzC9H0_KW26Xzb0cXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 21:55 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyFnMRMuWSSpytwvpk9u5YysMRfTRELyhGX9grWbGyi6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 0:48 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
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