From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6250DEE49A0 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231459AbjHUXKT (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:10:19 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56544 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231161AbjHUXKR (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:10:17 -0400 Received: from smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.21]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E939131 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.71.22.80] (helo=pip.localnet) by smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYE2G-0007CA-TR; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:10:12 +0000 From: Deri To: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Brian.Inglis@shaw.ca, Alejandro Colomar Subject: Re: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:10:07 +0100 Message-ID: <1977464.cNyiUUSuA9@pip> In-Reply-To: <54945a93-399e-620f-be6e-bbe740abb21e@kernel.org> References: <094c0eacf60998465be28c605bef69f2f5742459.1691370798.git.Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> <3262525.44csPzL39Z@pip> <54945a93-399e-620f-be6e-bbe740abb21e@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-smarthost01b-IP: [82.71.22.80] Feedback-ID: 82.71.22.80 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On Monday, 21 August 2023 23:02:35 BST Alejandro Colomar wrote: > Hi Deri, > > On 2023-08-21 01:39, Deri wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > > > I have created the tar files again with the latest sort. > > > > Both are intended to be used with groff 1.23.0, but the plus version > > includes the latest gropdf, so produces more compact output. It also has > > the narrower gap between the heading on the intro(1) page, I have not > > investigated the reason yet! > > > > Also I have a small bone to pick with your "official" sort order - it's > > not > > consistent. Most people expect a short word like "cat" to appear before a > > word like "catatonic", and we see "hosts" does appear before > > "hosts.equiv", so why does "man" come after "man-pages"! I've also > > strayed from the official sort order in the 6.05.01 pdf by arranging the > > latin and iso character code pages in proper numerical order so "latin10" > > comes after "latin9" rather than following "latin1". I hope this makes > > sense. > > Is "official" the Book for 6.5.1? Or is it the scripts/sortman in git HEAD? Hi Alex, I have not a clue, at different times it seems to change! I've had various diffs from Brian. I think he wanted me to use rpmvercmp for sorting, seemed a bit overkill. You've got a script called sortman, which I don't use, but I suppose is part of your work when you retire my script and replace it with your own. So I don't think I'm the person to ask. Cheers Deri > I've found that scripts/sortman had this problem that you report, and fixed > it: > > Is this order a good one? Should maybe cat_alike go right after cat? > > Cheers, > Alex > > [Hopefully, this email should already be signed; I've recovered my keys.]