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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	Francois Saint-Jacques <fsaintjacques@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] socket.7: Document SO_INCOMING_CPU
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:43:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d21aa72-ab2a-0a02-b8d3-dc8b4dd49333@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492632801.22296.11.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On 04/19/2017 10:13 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-04-19 at 20:48 +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> [reodering for clarity]
>>
>>>> On 02/19/2017 09:55 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>>>> [CC += Eric, so that he might review]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Francois,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/18/2017 05:06 AM, Francois Saint-Jacques wrote:
>>>>>> This socket option is undocumented. Applies on the latest version
>>>>>> (man-pages-4.09-511).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/man7/socket.7 b/man7/socket.7
>>>>>> index 3efd7a5d8..1a3ffa253 100644
>>>>>> --- a/man7/socket.7
>>>>>> +++ b/man7/socket.7
>>>>>> @@ -490,6 +490,26 @@ flag on a socket
>>>>>>  operation.
>>>>>>  Expects an integer boolean flag.
>>>>>>  .TP
>>>>>> +.BR SO_INCOMING_CPU " (getsockopt since Linux 3.19, setsockopt since
>>>>>> Linux 4.4)"
>>>>>> +.\" getsocktop 2c8c56e15df3d4c2af3d656e44feb18789f75837
>>>>>> +.\" setsocktop 70da268b569d32a9fddeea85dc18043de9d89f89
>>>>>> +Sets or gets the cpu affinity of a socket. Expects an integer flag.
>>>>>> +.sp
>>>>>> +.in +4n
>>>>>> +.nf
>>>>>> +int cpu = 1;
>>>>>> +socklen_t len = sizeof(cpu);
>>>>>> +setsockopt(fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_INCOMING_CPU, &cpu, &len);
>>>>>> +.fi
>>>>>> +.in
>>>>>> +.sp
>>>>>> +The typical use case is one listener per RX queue, as the associated listener
>>>>>> +should only accept flows handled in softirq by the same cpu.  This provides
>>>>>> +optimal NUMA behavior and keep cpu caches hot.
>>>>>> +.TP
>>>>>>  .B SO_KEEPALIVE
>>>>>>  Enable sending of keep-alive messages on connection-oriented sockets.
>>>>>>  Expects an integer boolean flag.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you! Patch applied.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to enhance the description somewhat. I'm not sure whether
>>>>> what I've written is quite correct (or whether it should be further
>>>>> extended). Eric, could you please take a look at the following, and let 
>>>>> me know if anything needs fixing:
>>>>>
>>>>>        SO_INCOMING_CPU  (gettable  since Linux 3.19, settable since Linux
>>>>>        4.4)
>>>>>               Sets or gets the CPU affinity  of  a  socket.   Expects  an
>>>>>               integer flag.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   int cpu = 1;
>>>>>                   socklen_t len = sizeof(cpu);
>>>>>                   setsockopt(fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_INCOMING_CPU, &cpu, &len);
>>>>>
>>>>>               Because  all  of the packets for a single stream (i.e., all
>>>>>               packets for the same 4-tuple) arrive on the single RX queue
>>>>>               that  is  associated with a particular CPU, the typical use
>>>>>               case is to employ one listening process per RX queue,  with
>>>>>               the  incoming  flow being handled by a listener on the same
>>>>>               CPU that is handling the RX queue.  This  provides  optimal
>>>>>               NUMA behavior and keeps CPU caches hot.
>>
>>> Hi Michael
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, but I think you are assuming I know more than 
>> I do. I'd like you to elaborate a little please. See below.
>>
>>> Note that setting the option is not supported if SO_REUSEPORT is used.
>>
>> Please define "not supported". Does this yield an API diagnostic?
>> If so, what is it?
>>
>>> Socket will be selected from an array, either by a hash or BPF program
>>> that has no access to this information.
>>
>> Sorry -- I'm lost here. How does this comment relate to the proposed
>> man page text above?
> 
> Simply that :
> 
> If an application uses both SO_INCOMING_CPU and SO_REUSEPORT, then
> SO_REUSEPORT logic, selecting the socket to receive the packet, ignores
> SO_INCOMING_CPU setting.
> 
> This does not need to be documented, because it is an implementation
> detail/bug that could be changed, if someone cares enough.

Okay, thanks, Eric. I'll just merge the page text as it currently 
is then.

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

      reply	other threads:[~2017-04-20 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-18  4:06 [patch] socket.7: Document SO_INCOMING_CPU Francois Saint-Jacques
     [not found] ` <CABNn7+rHfUTjMtm3Biqfx83G6Rr7pY-LuHXY=JqA6N3H_SstZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-19 20:55   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-02-20 15:26     ` Francois Saint-Jacques
     [not found]     ` <63815aac-9c8f-c599-9422-5c312cefc9e8-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 13:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-04-19 17:05         ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]           ` <1492621535.22296.8.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p+yfmBU6pStAUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 18:48             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]               ` <326b99c3-cc86-3abd-1069-2b3a52d9ba47-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 20:13                 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-04-20 14:43                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]

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