From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: pacman-ptgZXYu0fikgsBAKwltoeQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Jan Kratochvil
<jan.kratochvil-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Pedro Alves <palves-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ptrace.2: PTRACE_KILL needs a stopped process too
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:04:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120422200459.GA7519@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAkhtu8d0NKcTwWyCA8qWgz8Lag+GcpEE1=YMVe_Nh8XJ9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On 04/23, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>
> [widening CC]
add more CC's
> The man page says "For requests other than PTRACE_KILL,
Argh, PTRACE_KILL again.
You know, I simply do not know what it was supposed to do. I can only
see what the code actually does.
> the child process
> must be stopped."
Yes and no.
Yes, ptrace(PTRACE_KILL) "succeeds" even if the tracee is not stopped.
No, it has no effect if the tracee is not stopped.
All I can say is: PTRACE_KILL should never exist. If you want to kill
the tracee, you can do kill(SIGKILL).
Roughly, ptrace(PTRACE_KILL) is equal to ptrace(PTRACE_CONT, SIGKILL)
except it always returns 0.
> If the man page is describing actual intended kernel behavior, then it's a
> fairly long-standing kernel bug.
Perhaps. May be it should simply do kill(SIGKILL), but then it is not
clear why do we have PTRACE_KILL. And once again, I was never able to
understand the supposed behaviour.
Personally, I think we should fix the documentation. And imho the only
possible fix is to add this note: do not ever use PTRACE_KILL.
Oleg.
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[not found] ` <20091216004533.22261.qmail-ptgZXYu0fikgsBAKwltoeQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 18:56 ` ptrace.2: PTRACE_KILL needs a stopped process too Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2012-04-22 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
[not found] ` <20120422200459.GA7519-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-02 12:06 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-09 15:09 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201205091109.35637.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 19:35 ` Pedro Alves
[not found] ` <4FAAC706.6000808-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 20:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20120509201219.GA32051-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 16:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-09 21:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20120509211429.GA2455-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 22:16 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-09 22:08 ` Pedro Alves
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