From: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: vdso(7): new man page
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:28:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201304112128.10355.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXwfpH=dRZ82MqjWWL0oFohigcUHgLPnRPpnisOHYxKQQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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On Thursday 11 April 2013 14:31:55 Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > so i've slapped this together. i think the HISTORY section could use
> > more filling out, but that'd probably be more for funsies rather than
> > usefulness.
>
> This looks good to me. It may be worth mentioning that programs must
> not assume anything about where the vDSO is mapped -- that may change
> from kernel to kernel or exec to exec, unless the particular
> architecture makes some guarantee.
good idea
> > .SS Example Background
> > Making syscalls themselves can incur significant penalty.
> > In x86 systems, you can trigger a software interrupt (int $0x80) to tell
> > the kernel you wish to make a syscall.
> > Internally, this means the call has to go through the normal interrupt
> > layers to save/restore context before it even gets a chance to start
> > processing the system call.
> > Wouldn't it be nicer if you could start processing the system call
> > immediately? With newer revisions of the x86 architecture, there is now
> > a syscall/sysenter instruction that does exactly that (jumps directly to
> > the system call entry). However, rather than require the C library to
> > figure out if this functionality is available itself, the vDSO includes
> > symbols that can be used. This is typically referred to using the term
> > "vsyscall".
>
> I find this a bit confusing. The term "vsyscall" means something
> different on x86_64, and syscall and sysenter are different
> instructions. How about this:
>
> Making syscalls can be slow.
> In x86 32-bit systems, you can trigger a software interrupt (int
> $0x80) to tell the
> kernel you wish to make a syscall. This instruction is expensive: it
> goes through the full interrupt handling paths in microcode and in the
> kernel. Newer processors have faster, incompatible ways to issue
> system calls, and the kernel abstracts these through an entry point in
> the vdso. (The terminology can be confusing. On x86_32, this
> function is called __kernel_vsyscall, but on x86_64, the term
> "vsyscall" refers to an obsolete way to ask the kernel what time it is
> or what cpu the caller is on.)
i've merged in your suggestions. is the current (small) HISTORY section
correct then ? you can find it at the bottom of the page.
-mike
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2013-04-10 3:17 vdso(7): new man page Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201304092317.01590.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXwfpH=dRZ82MqjWWL0oFohigcUHgLPnRPpnisOHYxKQQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-12 1:28 ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2013-04-12 1:28 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201304112128.47633.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-22 13:22 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <519CC681.6080502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 0:00 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkgwmfBeyijCHj+y2FSQbgSDY8izW-9DAqbw4wgD2y1pAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-30 11:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-12-31 7:32 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201312310232.23392.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 10:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-12-31 7:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <1388475665-18491-1-git-send-email-vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 10:38 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <52C3F01C.9080803-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 17:44 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201401011244.13632.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 19:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <52C472DF.8020107-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-02 12:29 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201401020729.05590.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-02 19:13 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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