From: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: vdso(7): new man page
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:32:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201312310232.23392.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519CC681.6080502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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On Wednesday 22 May 2013 09:22:09 Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> On 04/12/13 03:28, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > here's v2 w/Andy's feedback
>
> Thanks for this--it's a nice piece of work. Could you take a
> look at my comments below and send a v3, please.
anything i didn't explicitly respond to below i merged with my version
> > the kernel you wish to make a syscall.
> > However, this instruction is expensive: it goes through the full
> > interrupt handling paths in the processor's microcode as well as in the
> > kernel. Newer processors have faster (but backwards incompatible)
> > instructions to initiate system calls.
> > Rather than require the C library to figure out if this functionality is
> > available at runtime itself, it can use functions provided by the kernel
> > in the vDSO.
>
> That last point (after the comma) is the most interesting (IMO) of the use
> cases of the vDSO. If you cared to expand on the details (i.e., are what
> are mechanics of the operation of those functions provided by the kernel),
> I think that would be interesting for the reader.
i think the paragraph after this explains things somewhat as you'd like (where
it talks about gettimeofday) ?
> > All symbols are also versioned (using the GNU version format).
> > This allows the kernel (in the very unlikely situation) to update the
> > function
>
> s/situation/case that it is necessary/
hmm, i see what you mean, but i think your version isn't really better ...
just different. i'll just delete the (...) text.
> > You use the standard C calling conventions when calling any of these
> > functions. No need to worry about weird register or stack behavior.
>
> That last sentence is a little incomplete. Could you expand/reword a little
> please.
it's meant as a follow up to the previous sentence. so the implication is
that there are no functions which violate the C ABI for your particular
target. arguments get passed in the standard way (registers/stack), and all
the registers have corresponding behavior: scratch are scratch, caller-
preserved are caller-preserved, callee-preserved are callee-preserved, etc...
> > Note that the vDSO that is used is based on the ABI of your userspace
> > code and not the ABI of the kernel.
> > i.e. If you run an i386 32bit ELF under an i386 32bit kernel or under an
>
> s/i.e. If/In other words, if/
i.e. shows up a lot in man pages as does e.g. (and both show up in this new
vdso(7) page) ...
> > So when referring to sections below, use the userspace ABI.
>
> It's not clear what you mean here when you say "use the userspace ABI."
> Could you clarify?
the two sentences that preceded this one explained things ...
-mike
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 3:17 vdso(7): new man page Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201304092317.01590.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXwfpH=dRZ82MqjWWL0oFohigcUHgLPnRPpnisOHYxKQQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-12 1:28 ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-12 1:28 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201304112128.47633.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-22 13:22 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <519CC681.6080502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 0:00 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <CAKgNAkgwmfBeyijCHj+y2FSQbgSDY8izW-9DAqbw4wgD2y1pAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-30 11:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-12-31 7:32 ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
[not found] ` <201312310232.23392.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 10:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-12-31 7:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <1388475665-18491-1-git-send-email-vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 10:38 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <52C3F01C.9080803-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 17:44 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201401011244.13632.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-01 19:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <52C472DF.8020107-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-02 12:29 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <201401020729.05590.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-02 19:13 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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