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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: capabilities(7): notes for kernel developers
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:05:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216210539.GA15589@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXzpntE=-9AY3iHiZRj4uMAi_tsXRM=exhSvBeajt=z9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting John Stultz (john.stultz@linaro.org):
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
> > Quoting Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) (mtk.manpages@gmail.com):
> >> On 12/16/2016 01:44 AM, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >> > On 12/15/2016 4:31 PM, John Stultz wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Casey Schaufler
> >> >> <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
> >> >>> On 12/15/2016 11:41 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> >>>> On 12/15/2016 05:29 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >> >>>>> CAP_WAKE_ALARM could readily be CAP_TIME.
> >> >>>> Actually, I don't quite understand what you mean with that sentence.
> >> >>>> Could you elaborate?
> >> >>> Should have said CAP_SYS_TIME
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Setting an alarm could be considered a time management function,
> >> >>> depending on what it actually does.
> >> >> Just a nit here. CAP_WAKE_ALARM is more about the privilege of waking
> >> >> a system from suspend, while CAP_SYS_TIME covers the ability to set
> >> >> the time. One wouldn't necessarily want to give applications which
> >> >> could wake a system up the capability to also set the time.
> >> >
> >> > Doesn't really matter, except that an ignorant developer
> >> > might make the mistake I did and assume that WAKE_ALARM
> >> > was somehow related to time management. If you want to use
> >> > it as an example don't let my dunderheadedness get in your
> >> > way.
> >>
> >> Actually, I decided it wasn't such a good example anyway.
> >> That capability could potentially be generic. (But it probably
> >> should better have been named something like 'CAP_WAKE_SYSTEM'.)
> >
> > How about:
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH 1/1] capabilities: alias CAP_WAKE_SYSTEM to CAP_WAKE_ALARM
> >
> > As suggested by Michael Kerrisk his is a less confusing name, and
> > this won't break any old userspace.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>
> > Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  include/uapi/linux/capability.h | 2 ++
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/capability.h b/include/uapi/linux/capability.h
> > index fd4f87d..ba972ff 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/capability.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/capability.h
> > @@ -357,6 +357,8 @@ struct vfs_ns_cap_data {
> >
> >  #define CAP_WAKE_ALARM            35
> >
> > +#define CAP_WAKE_SYSTEM      CAP_WAKE_ALARM
> > +
> 
> I was thinking of the same thing. Although I might rename the
> numerical define to WAKE_SYSTEM and put WAKE_ALARM as the alias (along
> with a comment as to WAKE_ALARM being deprecated), so its more clear
> which is the one that ought to be used by new code.
> 
> However, in the spirit of this thread, we might even consider
> broadening the cap silo a bit further, to something like
> CAP_WAKE_SUSPEND, such that it might also be able to cover broader PM
> actions?

Or just CAP_UNSUSPEND?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-15 11:40 RFC: capabilities(7): notes for kernel developers Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-12-15 16:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-12-15 19:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-12-15 20:40     ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]       ` <9ed6371f-3d38-45b1-a85b-1fbb3e5b4fc7-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16  0:31         ` John Stultz
2016-12-16  0:44           ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]             ` <7a6b5f38-de8e-d8d4-e6f7-feae3f8d192e-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 14:55               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <e8a6d266-9870-2591-576b-927208683b5d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 20:10                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-12-16 20:20                     ` John Stultz
2016-12-16 21:05                       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20161216210539.GA15589-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 21:16                           ` John Stultz
     [not found]                             ` <CALAqxLUzmFcnfNU5RtF241Lu4He1BAQpqKttydUj4_cv4j==DQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-19 20:20                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-17 21:01                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-12-16 15:04         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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