From: "Andries E. Brouwer" <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.org>,
Alejandro Colomar <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>,
fweimer@redhat.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org, jwilk@jwilk.net,
libbsd@lists.freedesktop.org,
Andries Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4] system_data_types.7: Document sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec & timeval
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:06:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200916100649.GA476613@if> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79018b23-d4d3-4524-d49a-9cf18b9008aa@gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:03:13AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> [CC += AEB]
>
>> Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) dixit:
>>
>>>> +.\" %%%LICENSE_START(VERBATIM)
>>>> +.\" Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this
>>>> +.\" manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are
>>>> +.\" preserved on all copies.
>>>> +.\"
>>>> +.\" Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this
>>>> +.\" manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided that the
>>>> +.\" entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a
>>>> +.\" permission notice identical to this one.
>>>> +.\"
>>>> +.\" Since the Linux kernel and libraries are constantly changing, this
>>>> +.\" manual page may be incorrect or out-of-date. The author(s) assume no
>>>> +.\" responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from
>>>> +.\" the use of the information contained herein. The author(s) may not
>>>> +.\" have taken the same level of care in the production of this manual,
>>>> +.\" which is licensed free of charge, as they might when working
>>>> +.\" professionally.
>>>> +.\"
>>>> +.\" Formatted or processed versions of this manual, if unaccompanied by
>>>> +.\" the source, must acknowledge the copyright and authors of this work.
>>>> +.\" %%%LICENSE_END
>>
>> I severely object.
>
> The "verbatim" license has been the most widely used license in
> manual pages, almost since the inception of the project 27 years
> ago. (Currently more than half of the pages carry this license.)
>
> I don't know the origin of the license (perhaps AEB does),
Digging through old sources reveals:
I started maintaing man-pages in 1995.
My first release was man-pages-1.6.
That release contained 245 man pages with the above license.
The first release that had the above license was man-pages-1.4,
released Sep 1994 by Rik Faith.
It contained 234 man pages with the above license.
man-pages-1.4.Announce describes that there are now
238 pages with "verbatim copying" and
41 pages with "GNU General Public License".
Earlier, man-pages-1.3 (released Jun 1994) by Rik Faith had
messy copyright statements or nothing at all, and Rik Faith made
for 1.4 a serious attempt at providing each page with a proper license.
So, this text came from Rik Faith.
It mentions "this manual page", so was probably written
especially for this manpage collection.
You might ask him for further details.
Andries
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-16 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-11 12:47 [IDEA] New pages for types: structs and typedfefs Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-12 6:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-12 8:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-12 9:26 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-13 12:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-13 12:53 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-13 20:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-13 21:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 0:20 ` [RFC v1] system_data_types.7: Draft (and links to it: <type>.3) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 10:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 10:55 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-22 20:21 ` [IDEA] New pages for types: structs and typedfefs Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-22 20:38 ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-23 8:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-23 19:54 ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-14 9:19 ` Jakub Wilk
2020-09-14 9:49 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-18 2:16 ` Guillem Jover
2020-09-19 8:45 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 10:22 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 14:03 ` [RFC v2] system_data_types.7: Draft v2 Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 15:00 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 15:52 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 19:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-15 0:47 ` [RFC v3] sigval.3, ssize_t.3, suseconds_t.3, time_t.3, timer_t.3, timespec.3, timeval.3, system_data_types.7: Document system types (draft v3) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-15 6:22 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-15 13:33 ` [RFC v4] system_data_types.7: Document sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec & timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-15 21:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 0:59 ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-16 8:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 10:06 ` Andries E. Brouwer [this message]
2020-09-16 11:00 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 10:52 ` [RFC v5] system_data_types.7: Document types: sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec, timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 10:56 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 11:01 ` [RFC v6] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 19:24 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 19:51 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 21:32 ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-17 9:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-17 10:42 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] Document system data types Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 21:05 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-17 21:16 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:42 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] system_data_types.7: Document types: sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec, timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] sigval.3: Add link page Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] ssize_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] suseconds_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] time_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] timer_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] timespec.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] timeval.3: " Alejandro Colomar
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