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Branden Robinson" To: Alejandro Colomar Cc: Deri , groff , linux-man Subject: Re: groff 1.23.0.rc2 status report (was: [BUG] gropdf, tbl: Completely broken table) Message-ID: <20221219165103.4nppaiwnidm3ynvr@illithid> References: <20220906191320.447t5awx3rcb5d5b@illithid> <1719285.QkHrqEjB74@pip> <01989003-349f-fb6b-f460-89106b82bc34@gmail.com> <2176657.1BCLMh4Saa@pip> <85c6b38a-be05-806f-528b-fe1c559dc1b7@gmail.com> <20221217160830.rcvgr65axz4hpcge@illithid> <5439523a-4fd1-e0c7-9116-6fd8c2a65c67@gmail.com> <20221219053245.j5omcuyxd7rnj4qt@illithid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2ubxbfcc3wdosqvj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221219053245.j5omcuyxd7rnj4qt@illithid> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org --2ubxbfcc3wdosqvj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [self-follow-up to clarify two points] At 2022-12-18T23:32:51-0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > I plan to fiddle various groff mdoc(7) internal register settings so > that Courier is only used with ".Bd -literal" and ".Bd -literal". Brainfart here. I was thinking of ".Bd -literal" and ".Dl". I observe that the list-begin macro (`Bl`) lacks a "-literal" option, I suppose because without further parameterization there would be ambiguity whether the typeface applied to literals should apply to the definiendum, the definiens,[1] or both. (If both, you don't need the option; use one of the other macros above.) > Probably not a lot of this will be visible to terminal-only users. I will add that it's possible that some of the problems with the groff_mdoc(7) page can be overcome with better use of the package's own macros. I would have assumed that the page was written in the first place by an mdoc(7) expert, but I no longer have confidence in that assumption.[2] Some time ago Ingo Schwarze made some suggestions regarding macro selection when I was making a small change to the page, and while I did not understand his advice in detail at the time, I now do, and agree with it. It's a shame when a document about documentation is deficient as an exemplar of its own subject. Regards, Branden [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition#Basic_terminology [2] It originates in the mdoc.samples document from the BSD Net-2 release. 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