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[68.12.97.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z23-20020a4ad597000000b004b0037cebc4sm172689oos.9.2023.01.05.23.24.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 05 Jan 2023 23:24:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 01:24:05 -0600 From: "G. Branden Robinson" To: Alejandro Colomar Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: How Groupe Bull screwed French with ISO 8859-1 (was: [PATCH v3 07/13] libc.7: ffix) Message-ID: <20230106072405.ozagbixtxujtvbu2@illithid> References: <20230105225303.bpo7ot4zcsthw2gv@illithid> <7aa64afd-86ea-fa04-9e97-98b60ff8b264@gmail.com> <20230106001719.imokpcfcqbuuuxka@illithid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kqzy6y5dml6deiaa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230106001719.imokpcfcqbuuuxka@illithid> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org --kqzy6y5dml6deiaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [This is a resend without the attachment, which kernel.org rejected.] Hi Alex, I've been meaning to share this story with more people since to figure it out I had to resort to literature in a language I don't read. At 2023-01-05T18:17:21-0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > ``This'' is so ugly on ISO 8859 and later character set-based > terminals that I don't wonder why people avoid it. >=20 > https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC2/WG3/docs/n411.pdf >=20 > ...is a copy of part 1 of ECMA-94, the gratis equivalent of ISO 8859, > and shows what the ' and ` glyphs are supposed to look like. So I give you: How Groupe Bull Screwed French with ISO 8859-1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oizx6vgbw01za0h/How%20Groupe%20Bull%20Screwed%20L= atin-1_CG_1996___25_65_0.pdf?dl=3D0 I hope some day the name of the ignorant and indifferent conference attendee will be made public. 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