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From: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>, David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	groff@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] proc_pid_fdinfo.5: Reduce indent for most of the page
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:09:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241103010929.ke6vf4amh76hyqb4@illithid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZybIG9xykOW6driW@riva.ucam.org>

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Hi Colin,

At 2024-11-03T00:47:23+0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> (That's leaving aside things like localized man pages, which I know
> some folks on the groff list tend to sniff

I can think of only one, the maintainer of a rival formatter.  ;-)

> at but I think they're important,

Me too.  I agree with the sniffer that no language is ever likely to
reach 100% parity with English in something like the Debian
distribution, but more modest domains exist.

I've put effort into l10n issues in man(7) and in groff generally.  In
particular, I really want seamless multilingual document support and
achievement of that goal will be, I think, much closer in groff 1.24.
(My pending push is gated on deciding how to change the me(7) and ms(7)
packages to accommodate a formatter-level fix to an ugly wart in the
l10n department; see <https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?66387>.)

> and the fact that the NAME section has both semantic and
> presentational meaning means that like it or not the parser needs to
> be aware of this.)

Even if mandb(8) doesn't run groff to extract the summary descriptions/
apropos lines, I think this feature might be useful to you for
coverage/regression testing.  Presumably, for valid inputs, groff and
mandb(8) should reach similar conclusions about how the text of a "Name"
section is to be formatted.

Regards,
Branden

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-03  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-15 21:17 [PATCH v2 1/3] proc_pid_fdinfo.5: Reduce indent for most of the page Ian Rogers
2024-10-15 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] proc_pid_fdinfo.5: Add subsection headers for different fd types Ian Rogers
2024-10-15 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] proc_pid_fdinfo.5: Add DRM subsection Ian Rogers
2024-11-01 13:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] proc_pid_fdinfo.5: Reduce indent for most of the page Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-01 18:19   ` Ian Rogers
2024-11-01 20:07     ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 10:08       ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-11-02 10:39         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 21:36           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:47             ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  0:05               ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  0:07                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  0:24                 ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  0:42                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  0:47                 ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  1:09                   ` G. Branden Robinson [this message]
2024-11-03  1:18                     ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  1:59                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03 14:32                     ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  4:05           ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-11-02 19:06         ` Colin Watson
2024-11-03  0:50           ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-11-03  1:55             ` Colin Watson
2024-11-02 23:10     ` [PATCH 0/3] Add mansect(1) program and manual page Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:10       ` [PATCH] CONTRIBUTING.d/patches: Document new features alongside the features Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:17         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:10       ` [PATCH 1/3] signal.7: Better description for SIGFPE Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:17         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:10       ` [PATCH 2/3] src/bin/mansect, mansect.1: Add program and its manual page Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-02 23:10       ` [PATCH 3/3] scripts/bash_aliases: man_section(), man_lsfunc(), man_lsvar(): Use mansect(1) Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  1:16       ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Add mansect(1) Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  1:16         ` [PATCH v2 1/4] src/bin/mansect, mansect.1: Add program and its manual page Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  1:17         ` [PATCH v2 2/4] scripts/bash_aliases: man_lsfunc(), man_lsvar(): Use mansect(1) Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  1:17         ` [PATCH v2 3/4] scripts/bash_aliases: man_lsfunc(), man_lsvar(): Use pcre2grep(1) instead of pcregrep(1) Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-03  1:17         ` [PATCH v2 4/4] src/bin/mansect: Preprocess with preconv(1) Alejandro Colomar

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