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From: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
To: Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
Cc: alx@kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	 g.branden.robinson@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	 mtk.manpages@gmail.com, safinaskar@zohomail.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] man2: document "new" mount API
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 19:58:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025-09-21-eldest-expert-wrists-cuddle-CQWTLx@cyphar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250921024310.80511-1-safinaskar@gmail.com>

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On 2025-09-21, Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aleksa, thank you! Don't give up. We all need these manpages.
> 
> I see you didn't address some my previous notes.
> 
> * move_mount(2) still says "Mount objects cannot be attached beneath the filesystem root".
> I suggest saying "root directory" or "root" or "root directory of the process" or just "/"
> instead. But you may keep this phrase as is, of course.
> 
> * Docs for FSPICK_NO_AUTOMOUNT in fspick(2) are still wrong. They say that FSPICK_NO_AUTOMOUNT
> affects all components of path. Similar thing applies to mount_setattr(2) and move_mount(2)

Sorry, I last read through your review comments a month ago, I must've
forgotten to make these changes back then. I'll include them in v5.
(It seems I remembered to change the open_tree(2) automount one but
forgot to do it for the others, oops!)

> * open_tree(2) still says:
> > If flags does not contain OPEN_TREE_CLONE, open_tree() returns a file descriptor
> > that is exactly equivalent to one produced by openat(2) when called with the same dirfd and path.
> 
> This is not true if automounts are involved. I suggest adding "modulo automounts". But you may
> keep everything, of course.

Hmmm. As we discussed last time, this sentence is more intended to
indicate that the file descriptor is just a regular open file (with no
dissolve_on_fput() + FMODE_NEED_UNMOUNT magic) rather than the exact
behaviour you get with regards to path lookup.

I would honestly prefer to remove "when called with the same dirfd and
path" rather than add caveats, but I think it makes the sentence less
readable... I'll think about it and try to fix this wording up somehow
for v5.

-- 
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
https://www.cyphar.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-21  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-19  1:59 [PATCH v4 00/10] man2: document "new" mount API Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] man/man2/mount_setattr.2: move mount_attr struct to mount_attr(2type) Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-19 16:04   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] man/man2/fsopen.2: document "new" mount API Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-19 16:24   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19 21:19     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  1:33       ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  8:39         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] man/man2/fspick.2: " Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  8:53   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-21 14:55     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21 15:17       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-22  0:25   ` Askar Safin
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] man/man2/fsconfig.2: " Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  9:26   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-24  6:41     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-24  8:52       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] man/man2/fsmount.2: " Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21 23:08   ` Askar Safin
2025-09-22  1:10     ` Askar Safin
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] man/man2/move_mount.2: " Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] man/man2/open_tree.2: " Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  9:47   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-22 10:09     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-22 13:22       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-24  1:34         ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-30 12:32     ` G. Branden Robinson
2025-10-02 22:20       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] man/man2/mount_setattr.2: mirror opening sentence from fsopen(2) Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  9:50   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-21 10:03     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21 10:19       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] man/man2/open_tree{,_attr}.2: document new open_tree_attr() API Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  9:55   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-24  6:31     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-24  8:51       ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-19  1:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] man/man2/{fsconfig,mount_setattr}.2: add note about attribute-parameter distinction Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-19 12:23   ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-21  9:59   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-09-22  1:06   ` Askar Safin
2025-09-21  2:43 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] man2: document "new" mount API Askar Safin
2025-09-21  9:58   ` Aleksa Sarai [this message]
2025-09-24 11:11     ` Aleksa Sarai

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