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From: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
To: Ash Holland <x-hv2j5m@keysmash.solutions>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>, linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] man/man7/man.7: Don't warn if groff_man.7 is not installed
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 15:51:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251209215149.6ah577ddtqabyypi@illithid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03f1e33dd6200c05afaff1f116f5b254cebd45dc.1765314181.git.x-hv2j5m@keysmash.solutions>

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Hi Ash,

At 2025-12-09T21:38:00+0000, Ash Holland wrote:
> When I invoke e.g. `man man`, I see a warning:
> 
>     /home/ash/.nix-profile/bin/man: can't resolve man7/groff_man.7
> 
> This is observed by others too: <https://askubuntu.com/q/1521258/478436>
> 
> To avoid this, we can simply ask troff not to emit this message:
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/groff/manual/groff.html#index-_002esoquiet>

I'm the GNU maintainer of groff and the author (instigator?) of the
`soquiet` request.  Your patch isn't wrong, but I must point out that
the `soquiet` request is new to groff 1.23.0 (which isn't that new
anymore--it was released in July 2023).

> -.so man7/groff_man.7
> +.soquiet man7/groff_man.7

If Alex applies this, it means the page redirection[1] will stop working
_where it had been before_ for any systems using groff 1.22.4 or older.

If Alex wants to make the Linux man-pages require groff 1.23.0 or later
(there's been no subsequent release, but I'm working on it[2]), that's
fine with me, but such a decision should be announced so that
distributors of man-pages packages can judge whether they need/want to
increment the versioning of their package dependencies accordingly.

Regards,
Branden

[1] that's not really what it is, but let's pretend
[2] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?65099

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-09 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-09 21:38 [PATCH] man/man7/man.7: Don't warn if groff_man.7 is not installed Ash Holland
2025-12-09 21:51 ` G. Branden Robinson [this message]
2025-12-09 23:18   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-12-17 19:01     ` G. Branden Robinson

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