From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Jordan Ogas <jogas@lanl.gov>,
werner@almesberger.net, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: pivot_root(".", ".") and the fchdir() dance
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:12:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <448138b8-0d0c-5eb3-d5e5-04a26912d3a8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rwnda47.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
Hello Eric,
On 9/11/19 1:06 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hello Christian,
>>
>>>> All: I plan to add the following text to the manual page:
>>>>
>>>> new_root and put_old may be the same directory. In particular,
>>>> the following sequence allows a pivot-root operation without need‐
>>>> ing to create and remove a temporary directory:
>>>>
>>>> chdir(new_root);
>>>> pivot_root(".", ".");
>>>> umount2(".", MNT_DETACH);
>>>
>>> Hm, should we mention that MS_PRIVATE or MS_SLAVE is usually needed
>>> before the umount2()? Especially for the container case... I think we
>>> discussed this briefly yesterday in person.
>> Thanks for noticing. That detail (more precisely: not MS_SHARED) is
>> already covered in the numerous other changes that I have pending
>> for this page:
>>
>> The following restrictions apply:
>> ...
>> - The propagation type of new_root and its parent mount must not
>> be MS_SHARED; similarly, if put_old is an existing mount point,
>> its propagation type must not be MS_SHARED.
>
> Ugh. That is close but not quite correct.
>
> A better explanation:
>
> The pivot_root system call will never propagate any changes it makes.
> The pivot_root system call ensures this is safe by verifying that
> none of put_old, the parent of new_root, and parent of the root directory
> have a propagation type of MS_SHARED.
Thanks for that. However, another question. You text has two changes.
First, I understand why you reword the discussion to indicate the
_purpose_ of the rules. However, you also, AFAICS, list a different set of
of directories that can't be MS_SHARED:
I said: new_root, the parent of new_root, and put_old
You said: the parent of new_root, and put_old, and parent of the
root directory.
Was I wrong on this detail also?
> The concern from our conversation at the container mini-summit was that
> there is a pathology if in your initial mount namespace all of the
> mounts are marked MS_SHARED like systemd does (and is almost necessary
> if you are going to use mount propagation), that if new_root itself
> is MS_SHARED then unmounting the old_root could propagate.
>
> So I believe the desired sequence is:
>
>>>> chdir(new_root);
> +++ mount("", ".", MS_SLAVE | MS_REC, NULL);
>>>> pivot_root(".", ".");
>>>> umount2(".", MNT_DETACH);
>
> The change to new new_root could be either MS_SLAVE or MS_PRIVATE. So
> long as it is not MS_SHARED the mount won't propagate back to the
> parent mount namespace.
Thanks. I made that change.
Cheers,
Michael
--
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-15 8:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-01 13:38 pivot_root(".", ".") and the fchdir() dance Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-05 10:36 ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-08-05 12:29 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-05 13:37 ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-08-06 19:35 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-06 8:12 ` Philipp Wendler
2019-08-06 12:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-09 10:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-09 14:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-09 23:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-10 10:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-10 11:15 ` Christian Brauner
2019-09-10 11:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-10 23:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 8:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2019-09-15 18:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-23 11:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-28 15:05 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-30 11:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-07 11:02 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-07 15:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-08 14:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-08 19:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-08 21:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-08 22:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
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