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([2001:a61:2482:101:3351:6160:8173:cc31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y20sm271710wra.79.2020.04.20.01.55.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Errors in man pages, here: iconv(1): Formatting/Markup To: Helge Kreutzmann References: <20200419064805.GA30840@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" Message-ID: <494c54d1-297a-ec19-2178-80f5ea4a2dbe@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:55:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200419064805.GA30840@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-man-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Dear manpages maintainers. > the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of > man pages both from a large variety of sources (including manpages) as > well for a large variety of target languages. > > During their work translators notice different possible issues in the > original (english) man pages. Sometiems this is a straightforward > typo, sometimes a hard to read sentence, sometimes this is a convention > not held up and sometimes we simply do not understand the original. > > We use several distributions as sources and update regularly (at > least every 2 month). This means we are fairly recent (some > distributions like archlinux also update frequently) but might miss > the latest upstream version once a while, so the error might be > already fixed. We apologize and ask you to close the issue immediately > if this should be the case, but given the huge volume of projects and > the very limited number of volunteers we are not able to double check > each and every issue. > > Secondly we translators see the manpages in the neutral po format, > i.e. converted and harmonized, but not the original source (be it man, > groff, xml or other). So we cannot provide a true patch (where > possible), but only an approximation which you need to translate into > your source format. > > Finally the issues I'm reporting have accumulated over time and are > not always discovered by me, so sometimes my description of the > problem my be a bit limited - do not hesitate to ask so we can clarify > them. > > I'm now reporting the errors for your project. As requested, each > issue is sent in an unique mail for easier tracking on your side. If > future reports should use another channel, please let me know. > > ** > > Missing markup/formatting of "gconv" I agree that there's a little inconsistency here, but I'm not sure that changing the formatting on all instances of 'gconv' is an improvement. I'm ignoring this, pending further explanation. Thanks, Michael > > "If B is not set, B(3) loads the system gconv module " > "configuration cache file created by B(8) and then, based on " > "the configuration, loads the gconv modules needed to perform the " > "conversion. If the system gconv module configuration cache file is not " > "available then the system gconv module configuration file is used." > -- > "If B is defined (as a colon-separated list of pathnames), the " > "system gconv module configuration cache is not used. Instead, " > "B(3) first tries to load the configuration files by searching " > "the directories in B in order, followed by the system default " > "gconv module configuration file. If a directory does not contain a gconv " > "module configuration file, any gconv modules that it may contain are " > "ignored. If a directory contains a gconv module configuration file and it " > "is determined that a module needed for this conversion is available in the " > "directory, then the needed module is loaded from that directory, the order " > "being such that the first suitable module found in B is used. " > "This allows users to use custom modules and even replace system-provided " > "modules by providing such modules in B directories." > -- > msgid "Usual system default gconv module configuration file." > -- > msgid "Usual system gconv module configuration cache." > -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/