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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/15/25 7:21 AM, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > This policy is based on the Gentoo policy (see link below). > > Cc: Carlos O'Donell > Cc: Collin Funk > Cc: Sam James > Link: > Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar > --- Needs a v4 so we can review the final CC-BY-SA-4.0 license requirements. > Hi! > > I changed obvious wording, such as replacing the project name. > On top of that, I removed a misleading sentence: > > They are capable of providing good assistance if you are careful > enough, but we can't really rely on that. > > I don't think it's possible to be careful enough. > > > Have a lovely day! > Alex > > CONTRIBUTING.d/ai | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > 1 file changed, 42 insertions(+) > create mode 100644 CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > > diff --git a/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > new file mode 100644 > index 000000000..92d5d85d6 > --- /dev/null > +++ b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ > +Name > + AI - using artificial intelligence for contributing > + > +Description > + It is expressly forbidden to contribute to this project any > + content that has been created with the assistance of artificial > + intelligence tools. OK. Though it has been discussed on-list that this policy could be seen as forbiding assistive technologies, but that this was not the intent of the Gentoo Council's wording. I don't have better wording. > + > + Concerns > + Copyright concerns. > + At this point, the regulations concerning copyright of > + generated contents are still emerging worldwide. Using > + such material could pose a danger of copyright > + violations, but it could also weaken claims to copyright > + and void the guarantees given by copyleft licensing. > + > + Quality concerns. > + Popular LLMs are really great at generating plausibly > + looking, but meaningless content. At this point, they > + pose both the risk of lowering the quality of a project, > + and of requiring an unfair human effort from > + contributors and maintainers to review contributions and > + detect the mistakes resulting from the use of AI. > + > + Ethical concerns. > + The business side of AI boom is creating serious ethical > + concerns. Among them: > + > + - Commercial AI projects are frequently indulging in > + blatant copyright violations to train their models. > + - Their operations are causing concerns about the huge > + use of energy and water. > + - The advertising and use of AI models has caused > + a significant harm to employees and reduction of > + service quality. > + - LLMs have been empowering all kinds of spam and scam > + efforts. > + > +Caveats > + This policy can be revisited, should a case been made over such > + a tool that does not pose copyright, ethical, and quality > + concerns. The original content is CC-BY-SA 4.0, and so you need attribution and a link to the license and a statement that you altered it. e.g. This work is licensed under a [Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/). Text derived from the [Gentoo project AI policy](https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy), used under the Creative Commons Attribution license. > > base-commit: ac6f5c32b3fae7549c5a42d96a3273adc24e5023 -- Cheers, Carlos.