From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Glauber Costa Subject: Re: [RFC v3 0/3] vmpressure_fd: Linux VM pressure notifications Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:27:28 +0400 Message-ID: <50AC9070.2030009@parallels.com> References: <20121107105348.GA25549@lizard> <20121107112136.GA31715@shutemov.name> <20121107114321.GA32265@shutemov.name> <20121115033932.GA15546@lizard.sbx05977.paloaca.wayport.net> <20121115073420.GA19036@lizard.sbx05977.paloaca.wayport.net> <20121115085224.GA4635@lizard> <50A60873.3000607@parallels.com> <50A6AC48.6080102@parallels.com> <50AA3FE F.2070100@parallels.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-man-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: David Rientjes Cc: Anton Vorontsov , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Pekka Enberg , Mel Gorman , Leonid Moiseichuk , KOSAKI Motohiro , Minchan Kim , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , John Stultz , linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linaro-kernel-cunTk1MwBs8s++Sfvej+rw@public.gmane.org, patches-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org, kernel-team-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org, linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki , Michal Hocko , Johannes Weiner , Tejun Heo List-Id: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On 11/20/2012 10:23 PM, David Rientjes wrote: > Anton can correct me if I'm wrong, but I certainly don't think this is > where mempressure is headed: I don't think any accounting needs to be done > and, if it is, it's a design issue that should be addressed now rather > than later. I believe notifications should occur on current's mempressure > cgroup depending on its level of reclaim: nobody cares if your memcg has a > limit of 64GB when you only have 32GB of RAM, we'll want the notification. My main concern is that to trigger those notifications, one would have to first determine whether or not the particular group of tasks is under pressure. And to do that, we need to somehow know how much memory we are using, and how much we are reclaiming, etc. On a system-wide level, we have this information. On a grouplevel, this is already accounted by memcg. In fact, the current code already seems to rely on memcg: + vmpressure(sc->target_mem_cgroup, + sc->nr_scanned - nr_scanned, nr_reclaimed); Now, let's start simple: Assume we will have a different cgroup. We want per-group pressure notifications for that group. How would you determine that the specific group is under pressure? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html