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* [PATCH] wavelan.4: Remove manpage for no longer available driver
@ 2013-08-31  6:13 Elie De Brauwer
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From: Elie De Brauwer @ 2013-08-31  6:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
  Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Elie De Brauwer

Hello Michael, list,

The current release of the manpages contains wavelan(4), but support for 
this module/driver is gone since several years. Starting from 2.6.32 
(2009 )the driver was put in a staging mode ready for deprecation:

The announcement e-mail is here: http://lwn.net/Articles/367876/
Then it lived in staging for two more releases with the following cry
for help: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.34.14/drivers/staging/wavelan/TODO
and disappeared since 2.6.35 and then all other traces (documentation, etc)
were also removed. 

Hence I think it's pointless to continue dragging this information around,
if the driver doesn't have much use to people anymore, I doubt the manpage
has.

my 2 cents
E. 

---
 man4/wavelan.4 |  141 --------------------------------------------------------
 1 file changed, 141 deletions(-)
 delete mode 100644 man4/wavelan.4

diff --git a/man4/wavelan.4 b/man4/wavelan.4
deleted file mode 100644
index 2fd7513..0000000
--- a/man4/wavelan.4
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,141 +0,0 @@
-.\" From jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org Thu Dec 19 18:31:49 1996
-.\" From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org>
-.\" Address: HP Labs, Filton Road, Stoke Gifford, Bristol BS12 6QZ, U.K.
-.\" Jean II - HPLB - '96
-.\" wavelan.c.4
-.\"
-.\" Provenance of this page is unclear.
-.\"
-.\" %%%LICENSE_START(GPL_NOVERSION_ONELINE)
-.\" Licensed under the GPL,
-.\" after inquiries with Jean Tourrilhes and Bruce Janson
-.\" (mtk, July 2006)
-.\" %%%LICENSE_END
-.\"
-.TH WAVELAN 4 1996-10-22 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
-.SH NAME
-wavelan \- AT&T GIS WaveLAN ISA device driver
-.SH SYNOPSIS
-.BI "insmod wavelan_cs.o [io=" B,B.. "] [ irq=" I,I.. "] [name=" N,N.. ]
-.SH DESCRIPTION
-.I wavelan
-is the low-level device driver for the NCR / AT&T / Lucent
-.B WaveLAN ISA
-and Digital (DEC)
-.B RoamAbout DS
-wireless ethernet adapter.
-This driver is available as a module or
-might be compiled in the kernel.
-This driver supports multiple cards
-in both forms (up to 4) and allocates the next available ethernet
-device (eth0..eth#) for each card found, unless a device name is
-explicitly specified (see below).
-This device name will be reported
-in the kernel log file with the MAC address, NWID and frequency used
-by the card.
-.SS Parameters
-This section apply to the module form (parameters passed on the
-.BR insmod (8)
-command line).
-If the driver is included in the kernel, use the
-.I ether=IRQ,IO,NAME
-syntax on the kernel command line.
-.TP
-.B io
-Specify the list of base address where to search for wavelan cards
-(setting by dip switch on the card).
-If you don't specify any io
-address, the driver will scan 0x390 and 0x3E0 addresses, which might
-conflict with other hardware...
-.TP
-.B irq
-Set the list of irq that each wavelan card should use (the value is
-saved in permanent storage for future use).
-.TP
-.B name
-Set the list of name to be used for each wavelan cards device (name
-used by
-.BR ifconfig (8)).
-.SS Wireless extensions
-Use
-.BR iwconfig (8)
-to manipulate wireless extensions.
-.SS NWID (or domain)
-Set the network ID
-.RI [ 0
-to
-.IR FFFF ]
-or disable it
-.RI [ off ].
-As the NWID is stored in the card Permanent Storage Area, it will be
-reuse at any further invocation of the driver.
-.SS Frequency & channels
-For the 2.4GHz 2.00 Hardware, you are able to set the frequency by
-specifying one of the 10 defined channels
-.RI ( 2.412,
-.I 2.422, 2.425, 2.4305, 2.432, 2.442, 2.452, 2.460, 2.462
-or
-.IR 2.484 )
-or directly by its value.
-The frequency is changed immediately and
-permanently.
-Frequency availability depends on the regulations...
-.SS Statistics spy
-Set a list of MAC addresses in the driver (up to 8) and get the last
-quality of link for each of those (see
-.BR iwspy (8)).
-.SS /proc/net/wireless
-.I status
-is the status reported by the modem.
-.I Link quality
-reports the quality of the modulation on the air (direct sequence
-spread spectrum) [max = 16].
-.I Level
-and
-.I Noise
-refer to the signal level and noise level [max = 64].
-The
-.I crypt discarded packet
-and
-.I misc discarded packet
-counters are not implemented.
-.SS Private ioctl
-You may use
-.BR iwpriv (8)
-to manipulate private ioctls.
-.SS Quality and level threshold
-Enable you the define the quality and level threshold used by the
-modem (packet below that level are discarded).
-.SS Histogram
-This functionality makes it possible to set a number of
-signal level intervals and
-to count the number of packets received in each of those defined
-intervals.
-This distribution might be used to calculate the mean value
-and standard deviation of the signal level.
-.SS Specific notes
-This driver will fail to detect some
-.B non-NCR/ATT&T/Lucent
-Wavelan cards.
-If this happens for you, you must look in the source code on
-how to add your card to the detection routine.
-.PP
-Some of the mentioned features are optional.
-You may enable to disable
-them by changing flags in the driver header and recompile.
-.\" .SH AUTHOR
-.\" Bruce Janson \(em bruce-+t8FkpRSqxe7NGdpmJTKYQ@public.gmane.org
-.\" .br
-.\" Jean Tourrilhes \(em jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org
-.\" .br
-.\" (and others; see source code for details)
-.\"
-.\" SEE ALSO part
-.\"
-.SH SEE ALSO
-.BR wavelan_cs (4),
-.BR ifconfig (8),
-.BR insmod (8),
-.BR iwconfig (8),
-.BR iwpriv (8),
-.BR iwspy (8)
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* Re: [PATCH] wavelan.4: Remove manpage for no longer available driver
       [not found] ` <1377929583-5438-1-git-send-email-eliedebrauwer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
@ 2013-09-04 12:38   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2013-09-04 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Elie De Brauwer; +Cc: linux-man

Hello Elie,

On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Elie De Brauwer
<eliedebrauwer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hello Michael, list,
>
> The current release of the manpages contains wavelan(4), but support for
> this module/driver is gone since several years. Starting from 2.6.32
> (2009 )the driver was put in a staging mode ready for deprecation:
>
> The announcement e-mail is here: http://lwn.net/Articles/367876/
> Then it lived in staging for two more releases with the following cry
> for help: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.34.14/drivers/staging/wavelan/TODO
> and disappeared since 2.6.35 and then all other traces (documentation, etc)
> were also removed.
>
> Hence I think it's pointless to continue dragging this information around,
> if the driver doesn't have much use to people anymore, I doubt the manpage
> has.

I'm reluctant to discard the page outright (occasionally, people do
want to see even obsolete information), so I've simply added a note to
the top of the page to say that the driver was removed in 2.6.35.

Cheers,

Michael


> my 2 cents
> E.
>
> ---
>  man4/wavelan.4 |  141 --------------------------------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 141 deletions(-)
>  delete mode 100644 man4/wavelan.4
>
> diff --git a/man4/wavelan.4 b/man4/wavelan.4
> deleted file mode 100644
> index 2fd7513..0000000
> --- a/man4/wavelan.4
> +++ /dev/null
> @@ -1,141 +0,0 @@
> -.\" From jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org Thu Dec 19 18:31:49 1996
> -.\" From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org>
> -.\" Address: HP Labs, Filton Road, Stoke Gifford, Bristol BS12 6QZ, U.K.
> -.\" Jean II - HPLB - '96
> -.\" wavelan.c.4
> -.\"
> -.\" Provenance of this page is unclear.
> -.\"
> -.\" %%%LICENSE_START(GPL_NOVERSION_ONELINE)
> -.\" Licensed under the GPL,
> -.\" after inquiries with Jean Tourrilhes and Bruce Janson
> -.\" (mtk, July 2006)
> -.\" %%%LICENSE_END
> -.\"
> -.TH WAVELAN 4 1996-10-22 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
> -.SH NAME
> -wavelan \- AT&T GIS WaveLAN ISA device driver
> -.SH SYNOPSIS
> -.BI "insmod wavelan_cs.o [io=" B,B.. "] [ irq=" I,I.. "] [name=" N,N.. ]
> -.SH DESCRIPTION
> -.I wavelan
> -is the low-level device driver for the NCR / AT&T / Lucent
> -.B WaveLAN ISA
> -and Digital (DEC)
> -.B RoamAbout DS
> -wireless ethernet adapter.
> -This driver is available as a module or
> -might be compiled in the kernel.
> -This driver supports multiple cards
> -in both forms (up to 4) and allocates the next available ethernet
> -device (eth0..eth#) for each card found, unless a device name is
> -explicitly specified (see below).
> -This device name will be reported
> -in the kernel log file with the MAC address, NWID and frequency used
> -by the card.
> -.SS Parameters
> -This section apply to the module form (parameters passed on the
> -.BR insmod (8)
> -command line).
> -If the driver is included in the kernel, use the
> -.I ether=IRQ,IO,NAME
> -syntax on the kernel command line.
> -.TP
> -.B io
> -Specify the list of base address where to search for wavelan cards
> -(setting by dip switch on the card).
> -If you don't specify any io
> -address, the driver will scan 0x390 and 0x3E0 addresses, which might
> -conflict with other hardware...
> -.TP
> -.B irq
> -Set the list of irq that each wavelan card should use (the value is
> -saved in permanent storage for future use).
> -.TP
> -.B name
> -Set the list of name to be used for each wavelan cards device (name
> -used by
> -.BR ifconfig (8)).
> -.SS Wireless extensions
> -Use
> -.BR iwconfig (8)
> -to manipulate wireless extensions.
> -.SS NWID (or domain)
> -Set the network ID
> -.RI [ 0
> -to
> -.IR FFFF ]
> -or disable it
> -.RI [ off ].
> -As the NWID is stored in the card Permanent Storage Area, it will be
> -reuse at any further invocation of the driver.
> -.SS Frequency & channels
> -For the 2.4GHz 2.00 Hardware, you are able to set the frequency by
> -specifying one of the 10 defined channels
> -.RI ( 2.412,
> -.I 2.422, 2.425, 2.4305, 2.432, 2.442, 2.452, 2.460, 2.462
> -or
> -.IR 2.484 )
> -or directly by its value.
> -The frequency is changed immediately and
> -permanently.
> -Frequency availability depends on the regulations...
> -.SS Statistics spy
> -Set a list of MAC addresses in the driver (up to 8) and get the last
> -quality of link for each of those (see
> -.BR iwspy (8)).
> -.SS /proc/net/wireless
> -.I status
> -is the status reported by the modem.
> -.I Link quality
> -reports the quality of the modulation on the air (direct sequence
> -spread spectrum) [max = 16].
> -.I Level
> -and
> -.I Noise
> -refer to the signal level and noise level [max = 64].
> -The
> -.I crypt discarded packet
> -and
> -.I misc discarded packet
> -counters are not implemented.
> -.SS Private ioctl
> -You may use
> -.BR iwpriv (8)
> -to manipulate private ioctls.
> -.SS Quality and level threshold
> -Enable you the define the quality and level threshold used by the
> -modem (packet below that level are discarded).
> -.SS Histogram
> -This functionality makes it possible to set a number of
> -signal level intervals and
> -to count the number of packets received in each of those defined
> -intervals.
> -This distribution might be used to calculate the mean value
> -and standard deviation of the signal level.
> -.SS Specific notes
> -This driver will fail to detect some
> -.B non-NCR/ATT&T/Lucent
> -Wavelan cards.
> -If this happens for you, you must look in the source code on
> -how to add your card to the detection routine.
> -.PP
> -Some of the mentioned features are optional.
> -You may enable to disable
> -them by changing flags in the driver header and recompile.
> -.\" .SH AUTHOR
> -.\" Bruce Janson \(em bruce-+t8FkpRSqxe7NGdpmJTKYQ@public.gmane.org
> -.\" .br
> -.\" Jean Tourrilhes \(em jt-zcmx7qE4x4dxnVILBQAtiA@public.gmane.org
> -.\" .br
> -.\" (and others; see source code for details)
> -.\"
> -.\" SEE ALSO part
> -.\"
> -.SH SEE ALSO
> -.BR wavelan_cs (4),
> -.BR ifconfig (8),
> -.BR insmod (8),
> -.BR iwconfig (8),
> -.BR iwpriv (8),
> -.BR iwspy (8)
> --
> 1.7.10.4
>



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* Re: [PATCH] wavelan.4: Remove manpage for no longer available driver
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@ 2013-09-04 19:13       ` Elie De Brauwer
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Elie De Brauwer @ 2013-09-04 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk-manpages; +Cc: linux-man

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hello Elie,
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Elie De Brauwer
> <eliedebrauwer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Hello Michael, list,
>>
>> The current release of the manpages contains wavelan(4), but support for
>> this module/driver is gone since several years. Starting from 2.6.32
>> (2009 )the driver was put in a staging mode ready for deprecation:
>>
>> The announcement e-mail is here: http://lwn.net/Articles/367876/
>> Then it lived in staging for two more releases with the following cry
>> for help: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.34.14/drivers/staging/wavelan/TODO
>> and disappeared since 2.6.35 and then all other traces (documentation, etc)
>> were also removed.
>>
>> Hence I think it's pointless to continue dragging this information around,
>> if the driver doesn't have much use to people anymore, I doubt the manpage
>> has.
>
> I'm reluctant to discard the page outright (occasionally, people do
> want to see even obsolete information), so I've simply added a note to
> the top of the page to say that the driver was removed in 2.6.35.

No problem, I only saw after my patch that has also happened for the
sk98lin(4) page.
My initial reflex would be that anybody interested in older stuff
already has a habit
with working with version control history.

my 2 cents
E.

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* Re: [PATCH] wavelan.4: Remove manpage for no longer available driver
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@ 2013-09-05  8:04           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2013-09-05  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Elie De Brauwer; +Cc: Michael Kerrisk-manpages, linux-man

On 04.09.2013 21:13, Elie De Brauwer wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Hello Elie,
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Elie De Brauwer
>> <eliedebrauwer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> Hello Michael, list,
>>>
>>> The current release of the manpages contains wavelan(4), but support for
>>> this module/driver is gone since several years. Starting from 2.6.32
>>> (2009 )the driver was put in a staging mode ready for deprecation:
>>>
>>> The announcement e-mail is here: http://lwn.net/Articles/367876/
>>> Then it lived in staging for two more releases with the following cry
>>> for help: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.34.14/drivers/staging/wavelan/TODO
>>> and disappeared since 2.6.35 and then all other traces (documentation, etc)
>>> were also removed.
>>>
>>> Hence I think it's pointless to continue dragging this information around,
>>> if the driver doesn't have much use to people anymore, I doubt the manpage
>>> has.
>>
>> I'm reluctant to discard the page outright (occasionally, people do
>> want to see even obsolete information), so I've simply added a note to
>> the top of the page to say that the driver was removed in 2.6.35.
> 
> No problem, I only saw after my patch that has also happened for the
> sk98lin(4) page.

Do you have further details for the sk98lin driver? That page then also needs
a similar note.

> My initial reflex would be that anybody interested in older stuff
> already has a habit
> with working with version control history.

As said, I prefer to hold onto the pages, at least for a while.

Cheers,

Michael
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