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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos-v2tUB8YBRSi3e3T8WW9gsA@public.gmane.org>,
	Peng Haitao <penght-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iswblank.3: ATTRIBUTES: Note function that is thread safe with exceptions
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:18:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53086B56.9090800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE2sS1g6ONVgapgZXh2XZJNCr+=JDEezpmPCnxLY2MfEpNfA2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 02/13/2014 05:48 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Peng Haitao <penght-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> My suggestion is:
>>>
>>> "The function iswblank() is thread safe with exceptions (locale). See
>>> "Safety Concepts" for more information."
>>>
>>> Then describe the locale issue once in the "Safety Concepts" section.
>>>
>>> This reduces duplicated text and simplifies each man page.
>>>
>>> Users that know what "locale" means can scroll quickly, users that
>>> don't can look it up and learn.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense?
>>>
>>
>> Your suggestion can simplify each man page, but our description make each man page clearer.
> 
> There is a natural tension here between being descriptive and being succinct.

(Yup.)

>> In Oracle Solaris's manpages and POSIX, when the function has exceptions,
>> exceptions are described in this function.
> 
> We should strive to be better than that.

(Yup ;-).)

>> In POSIX, when the function has exceptions, exceptions are described in this function as follows:
>> The wcrtomb() function need not be thread-safe if called with a NULL ps argument.
>>
>> The tmpnam() function need not be thread-safe if called with a NULL parameter.
>>
>> I don't have strong preference. If Michael and other members prefer
>> your suggestion, I can modify my patches.
> 
> I have a strong preference for harmonizing this information across the
> man pages and the glibc manual.

Sorry for being late to this thread. Carlos, I agree with you. I will take a bit 
of time now to look more closely at the glibc markings, and follow up. Thanks for
raising this.

Cheers,

Michael



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-22  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-10  6:20 [PATCH] iswblank.3: ATTRIBUTES: Note function that is thread safe with exceptions Peng Haitao
     [not found] ` <1392013239-31138-1-git-send-email-penght-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-10 10:06   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-02-10 16:03   ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]     ` <CAE2sS1g5w0jZ04EovvQoW=Cta4ACdHWVus-5zo+vw1J7E1SnZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-12  1:34       ` Peng Haitao
     [not found]         ` <52FACFBB.6070607-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-12 15:31           ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]             ` <CAE2sS1ijg2ef1WcswN0o+wmJOcgLDoCEbYrcNJyOxhS-HCxuSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-13  4:07               ` Peng Haitao
     [not found]                 ` <52FC44E7.1030000-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-13  4:48                   ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]                     ` <CAE2sS1g6ONVgapgZXh2XZJNCr+=JDEezpmPCnxLY2MfEpNfA2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-22  9:18                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2014-02-23 10:16               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <CAKgNAkix8vTrKEV_vicpD2yH88NQmiSrMR9dgKoQ1u2NkqZexA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-25 17:28                   ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]                     ` <CAE2sS1gZJCZdEhY7hpF8=dP069JFTyxD-B-nY9va0OTFV8jN4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 10:24                       ` Peng Haitao
2014-06-11  8:30                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                         ` <CAKgNAkh029iy5=7+N1RiA1_X9Zeiv_coci59bFN1y-oQmOJykA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-11  9:33                           ` Peng Haitao
2014-06-11 14:59                           ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]                             ` <CAE2sS1j4sLeczF_gR94+mZ89bi-C=RMMikE=_cOvu9id7v5sHw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-11 20:31                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                 ` <CAKgNAkj0b=-5EMqEWvxoq4_qfTH2wNOatkBmqVrXq5dOuQNHmw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-12 11:27                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKgNAki5UXmOTa=SW1GEYZTP1f5uMiTsrbkcYN+MuYZf6mA0qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-12 12:16                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                         ` <CAKgNAkgDFuwXDD=Rjn3KAutyuOAy_-71imhR5UGZOS9fcMSnew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-12 14:02                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-06-16  3:53                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                             ` <539E6A32.7080605-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16  7:49                                               ` Peng Haitao
     [not found]                                                 ` <539EA198.9090309-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17  5:40                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                 ` <539FD4D3.40 10406@gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                   ` <539FD4D3.4010406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17  5:47                                                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                       ` <539FD660.7080503-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17  8:24                                                         ` Peng Haitao
2014-02-25  5:35               ` Peng Haitao
     [not found]                 ` <530C2BA9.8070604-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-25 11:17                   ` walter harms

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