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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fts.3 is not available in LFS builds
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:29:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53299BA8.1070206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10506751.CXtlUKOUPc@vapier>

On 03/19/2014 04:12 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 15:11:18 Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 03:02:53PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>>>> Oh! I thought most distributors built their 32-bit distros with
>>>> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 these days? Am I wrong? (I don't have any
>>>> 32-bit systems handy to sample from.)
>>>
>>> I think some build systems try to enforce it, but last time Eric Sandeen
>>> checked we still had lots of packages not picking it up.
>>
>> Okay. I trimmed it back close to your original text:
>>
>>     BUGS
>>        All  of  the  APIs described in this man page are not safe when
>>        compiling a program using the LFS APIs on 32-bit systems (e.g.,
>>        when compiling with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64).
>>
>> (Okay?)
> 
> not to throw a wrench in there as a pedantic a$$hole, but i find the classic 
> concept of "32-bit and 64-bit systems" to not really fit into modern world 
> (well, it's been this way for much longer, so let's say "mainstream").
> 
> would you call all ILP32 ABIs 32-bit ?  e.g. mips' n32 or x86's x32.  
> sizeof(long) == 4, but sizeof(off_t) == 8.  POSIX describes these as "ILP32 
> OFF64" while the classic 32-bit systems are "ILP32 OFF".
> 
> you can (afaik) use -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 w/x32 and fts.h and have it work.  
> maybe we just ignore the issue since fts.h is dead anyways ?  just add a 
> section to the fts(3) page recommending people use ftw(3) instead ?

Okay, already ;-). I removed the words "on 32-bit systems".


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-19 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-15 13:54 [PATCH] fts.3 is not available in LFS builds Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20140315135416.GA10430-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-15 14:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <CAKgNAkgqXUf0yWaXyAD7yBJgivp9Jmwvz4EAnh_DpyActuoGwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-16 17:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20140316172219.GA16900-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 13:56           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]             ` <5326FF14.7010305-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 14:01               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <20140317140118.GA11576-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 14:02                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                     ` <CAKgNAkh7ES18jT2coD39ZXvjUxkrZavaG=SufNS_-16SgM3kUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 14:06                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <20140317140616.GA15958-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 14:11                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                             ` <CAKgNAkinnsvoXT_FNxaS7L5Umo6va8OCVnTv-gZ5vvVSFi2--w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-19  3:12                               ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-19  5:56                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-19 13:29                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-03-19 13:29                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]

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