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* [PATCH] access.2: explain how access() check treats capabilities
@ 2014-09-10 13:01 Denys Vlasenko
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Denys Vlasenko @ 2014-09-10 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk; +Cc: Denys Vlasenko, linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA

We have users who are terribly confused why their binaries
with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE capability see EACCESS from access() calls,
but are able to read the file.

The reason is access() isn't the "can I read/write/execute this file?"
question, it is the "(assuming that I'm a setuid binary,) can *the user
who invoked me* read/write/execute this file?" question.

That's why it uses real UIDs as documented, and why it ignores
capabilities when capability-endored binaries are run by non-root
(this patch adds this information).

To make users more likely to notice this less-known detail,
the patch expands the explanation with rationale for this logic
into a separate paragraph.

Signed-off-by: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
CC: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
---
 man2/access.2 | 19 ++++++++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/man2/access.2 b/man2/access.2
index bfd85cd..73495ad 100644
--- a/man2/access.2
+++ b/man2/access.2
@@ -102,9 +102,22 @@ The check is done using the calling process's
 UID and GID, rather than the effective IDs as is done when
 actually attempting an operation (e.g.,
 .BR open (2))
-on the file.
-This allows set-user-ID programs to
-easily determine the invoking user's authority.
+on the file. Similarly, for root user, the check uses the set of
+permitted capabilities rather than the set of effective
+capabilities; and for non-root user, the check uses an empty set
+of capabilities.
+
+This allows set-user-ID programs and capability-endowed programs
+to easily determine the invoking user's authority. In other words:
+.BR access ()
+does not answer the "can I read/write/execute this file?" question.
+It answers a bit different question: "(assuming I'm a setuid binary,)
+can
+.I the user who invoked me
+read/write/execute this file?",
+with the intent to make it possible for setuid programs to not
+allow malicious users make them read files which users shouldn't be
+able to read.
 
 If the calling process is privileged (i.e., its real UID is zero),
 then an
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* Re: [PATCH] access.2: explain how access() check treats capabilities
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@ 2015-02-05 10:44   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-02-05 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denys Vlasenko
  Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w,
	linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA

On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> We have users who are terribly confused why their binaries
> with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE capability see EACCESS from access() calls,
> but are able to read the file.
> 
> The reason is access() isn't the "can I read/write/execute this file?"
> question, it is the "(assuming that I'm a setuid binary,) can *the user
> who invoked me* read/write/execute this file?" question.
> 
> That's why it uses real UIDs as documented, and why it ignores
> capabilities when capability-endored binaries are run by non-root
> (this patch adds this information).
> 
> To make users more likely to notice this less-known detail,
> the patch expands the explanation with rationale for this logic
> into a separate paragraph.

Thanks, Denys. Applied.

Cheers,

Michael


> Signed-off-by: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> CC: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> ---
>  man2/access.2 | 19 ++++++++++++++++---
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man2/access.2 b/man2/access.2
> index bfd85cd..73495ad 100644
> --- a/man2/access.2
> +++ b/man2/access.2
> @@ -102,9 +102,22 @@ The check is done using the calling process's
>  UID and GID, rather than the effective IDs as is done when
>  actually attempting an operation (e.g.,
>  .BR open (2))
> -on the file.
> -This allows set-user-ID programs to
> -easily determine the invoking user's authority.
> +on the file. Similarly, for root user, the check uses the set of
> +permitted capabilities rather than the set of effective
> +capabilities; and for non-root user, the check uses an empty set
> +of capabilities.
> +
> +This allows set-user-ID programs and capability-endowed programs
> +to easily determine the invoking user's authority. In other words:
> +.BR access ()
> +does not answer the "can I read/write/execute this file?" question.
> +It answers a bit different question: "(assuming I'm a setuid binary,)
> +can
> +.I the user who invoked me
> +read/write/execute this file?",
> +with the intent to make it possible for setuid programs to not
> +allow malicious users make them read files which users shouldn't be
> +able to read.
>  
>  If the calling process is privileged (i.e., its real UID is zero),
>  then an
> 


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* Re: [PATCH] access.2: explain how access() check treats capabilities
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@ 2015-02-11 13:34       ` Denys Vlasenko
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From: Denys Vlasenko @ 2015-02-11 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages); +Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA

Hi Michael,

On 02/05/2015 11:44 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> We have users who are terribly confused why their binaries
>> with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE capability see EACCESS from access() calls,
>> but are able to read the file.
>>
>> The reason is access() isn't the "can I read/write/execute this file?"
>> question, it is the "(assuming that I'm a setuid binary,) can *the user
>> who invoked me* read/write/execute this file?" question.
>>
>> That's why it uses real UIDs as documented, and why it ignores
>> capabilities when capability-endored binaries are run by non-root
>> (this patch adds this information).
>>
>> To make users more likely to notice this less-known detail,
>> the patch expands the explanation with rationale for this logic
>> into a separate paragraph.
> 
> Thanks, Denys. Applied.

I don't see it in git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git

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* Re: [PATCH] access.2: explain how access() check treats capabilities
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@ 2015-02-11 13:38           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-02-11 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denys Vlasenko
  Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w,
	linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA

Hi Denys,

On 02/11/2015 02:34 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 02/05/2015 11:44 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>>> We have users who are terribly confused why their binaries
>>> with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE capability see EACCESS from access() calls,
>>> but are able to read the file.
>>>
>>> The reason is access() isn't the "can I read/write/execute this file?"
>>> question, it is the "(assuming that I'm a setuid binary,) can *the user
>>> who invoked me* read/write/execute this file?" question.
>>>
>>> That's why it uses real UIDs as documented, and why it ignores
>>> capabilities when capability-endored binaries are run by non-root
>>> (this patch adds this information).
>>>
>>> To make users more likely to notice this less-known detail,
>>> the patch expands the explanation with rationale for this logic
>>> into a separate paragraph.
>>
>> Thanks, Denys. Applied.
> 
> I don't see it in git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git

Currently, I have it in a local branch. You'll get a mail
when it's released.

Thanks,

Michael


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