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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Kenton Varda <kenton@sandstorm.io>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:11:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54DC7C3D.4040100@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egpwk0n3.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 02/11/2015 03:01 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Ping!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 2 February 2015 at 16:37, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
>> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing this up!
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2014 10:54 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Files with access permissions such as ---rwx---rwx give fewer
>>>> permissions to their group then they do to everyone else.  Which means
>>>> dropping groups with setgroups(0, NULL) actually grants a process
>>>> privileges.
>>>>
>>>> The uprivileged setting of gid_map turned out not to be safe after
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^
> unprivileged  -- typo fix

Thanks for confirming.

>>>> this change.  Privilege setting of gid_map can be interpreted as
>>>> meaning yes it is ok to drop groups.
>>>
>>> I had trouble to parse that sentence (and I'd like to make sure that
>>> the right sentence ends up in the commit message). Did you mean:
>>>
>>>     "*Unprivileged* setting of gid_map can be interpreted as meaning
>>>      yes it is ok to drop groups"
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Or something else?
> 
> 
> I meant:  Setting of gid_map with privilege has been clarified to mean
> that dropping groups is ok.  This allows existing programs that set
> gid_map with privilege to work without changes.  That is newgidmap
> continues to work unchanged.

Thanks. I added that text to the changelog message.

Cheers,

Michael



-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-12 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-29 17:26 [PATCH v2] userns: Disallow setgroups unless the gid_map writer is privileged Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <52e0643bd47b1e5c65921d6e00aea1f724bb510a.1417281801.git.luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 12:09   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87h9xez20g.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 18:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrXOz4C7Tu8mggBtR=k47ZmkuAhinVUxWJSFyS1Ep0HvRw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 19:45           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87mw75ygwp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 20:13               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrVfO4sBdZcQiZXsofPZMj7pqKeVbX+4g3dAj6WjUca+1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 20:25                   ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87fvcxyf28.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 20:28                       ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:30                         ` [CFT][PATCH 3/3] userns: Unbreak the unprivileged remount tests Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <874mtdyexp.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 21:05                           ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <CALCETrXyC7XPaqj6oe-TmyypOVc_CkZbF6UAAx8YfkyD=gEMOQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 21:45                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:17                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                   ` <CALCETrXkEOiyzpvqtXtk1f4sL+M1Q-Y6rV=K91ez3yv2nb4Y0Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 23:07                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                       ` <87388xodlj.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 23:17                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:06                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 1/7] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                             ` <87h9x5re41.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:07                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 2/7] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                 ` <87bnndre2h.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:11                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:26                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                       ` <87h9x5ok0h.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:33                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:17                                                   ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                                     ` <5486237D.4060304-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:25                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                     ` <CALCETrXSG5QN8 J3GtZjLdV6T7j_uaMG=fyTDt27vEK0NpGs9qg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrXSG5QN8J3GtZjLdV6T7j_uaMG=fyTDt27vEK0NpGs9qg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:27                                                         ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                                           ` <548625E3.6020400-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:39                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                               ` <874mt5ojfh.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:47                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:07                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 3/7] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:08                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 4/7] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:12                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:10                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 5/7] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                 ` <87sigppzch.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:15                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:11                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 6/7] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                 ` <87mw6xpzb0.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:21                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                     ` <CALCETrU-o5mPr1jCaLXDuuF6J2N470zAtx=8Fa-SjF=ZpdE8mQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:44                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                         ` <87ppbtn4mv.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:48                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                             ` <CALCETrXSScp77BUJR5NSTh5-RnEZ9rqELSGJBeEzgdQ-OtohuQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 23:30                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87a92xn2io.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 19:31                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                     ` <87r3w8liw4.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 20:36                                                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 1/8] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                         ` <87iohklfvj.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 20:38                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 2/8] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                             ` <87d27slfsw.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 22:49                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 3/8] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                             ` <874mt4lfr6.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 23:00                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 4/8] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 5/8] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 6/8] userns: Rename id_map_mutex to userns_state_mutex Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                             ` <87mw6wk12i.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 22:49                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:42                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 7/8] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:28                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                               ` <CALCETrVfKiXuY=KY_=nHpkTyLWgpy_3DK=4Mr2mhpyX9z1TzrA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10  0:04                                                                                 ` Eric W.Biederman
2014-12-10  0:21                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <CALCETrWpzvNm=fjOa3_+4QOqYP8qZUJvQAd6AsRZ71xyHZQRCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10 22:33                                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <87wq5zf83t.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12  1:09                                                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <87iohh3c9c.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12  1:30                                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-12  1:31                                                                                               ` [CFT][PATCH v6] " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <8761dh3b7k.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12 21:52                                                                                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] Documenting user namespace changes Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-12 21:54                                                                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] proc.5: Document /proc/[pid]/setgroups Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-02 15:36                                                                                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <54CF9995.1050409-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11  8:01                                                                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <CAKgNAkgWnZ=7E4bk3JhzFS88CJ32szYCYcm_Sx166yVuWKhhUA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 13:51                                                                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <8761b8lfoz.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 13:53                                                                                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                                                                                     ` <54DCB059.2020305-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-21  7:57                                                                                                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-03 11:39                                                                                                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <878uicy1r9.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12 21:54                                                                                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <87ppbo1ql4.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-02 15:37                                                                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11  8:02                                                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11 14:01                                                                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-12 10:11                                                                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-02-02 21:31                                                                                                           ` Alban Crequy
2015-03-04 14:00                                                                                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-12-09 20:43                                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 8/8] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-10 16:39                                                                         ` [CFT] Can I get some Tested-By's on this series? Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                           ` <87mw6vh31e.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10 22:48                                                                             ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-10 22:50                                                                               ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <5488CE4D.1000606-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10 23:19                                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <87r3w7f5yc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11 19:27                                                                                       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-12  6:56                                                                                       ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-12-13 22:31                                                                               ` serge
     [not found]                                                                               ` <87lhmcy2et.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20141212220840.GF22091@castiana.ipv6.teksavvy.com>
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <8761dgze56.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <8761dgze56.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 19:38                                                                                       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-15 20:11                                                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <8761dcwu40.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 20:49                                                                                             ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-16  2:05                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                               ` <CALCETrWXp3eq2O068NZcd+KPCg+N2y0T57Q0JzHcZLjzq+mXLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-16  9:23                                                                                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-08 22:14                                               ` [CFT][PATCH 7/7] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                 ` <87egs9pz5u.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 22:26                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 20:58                       ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrXsQbCeQBUo_FrXNVS42mBEFXz1jku9TicVbFhxTmNGmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 21:26                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <87bnnlvj43.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 22:09                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                 ` <CALCETrUJ9Qk553YSsYkjaeE-Qw0u_Pt1eoODUPX-udsO8kf14w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 22:48                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87wq69pt0q.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 22:56                                       ` Andy Lutomirski

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