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* [patch] perf_event_open.2: Clarify PERF_EVENT_IOC_REFRESH behavior
@ 2015-02-12 17:14 Vince Weaver
  2015-02-17  5:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Vince Weaver @ 2015-02-12 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  Cc: linux-man, linux-kernel, Peter Zijlstra, Paul Mackerras,
	Ingo Molnar, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo


Currently the PERF_EVENT_IOC_REFRESH ioctl, when applied to a group
leader, will refresh all children.  Also if a refresh value of 0
is chosen then the refresh becomes infinite (never runs out).
Back in 2011 PAPI was relying on these behaviors but I was told
that both were unsupported and subject to being removed at any time.
   (See https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/24/337 )
However the behavior has not been changed.  

This patch updates the manpage to still list the behavior as
unsupported, but removes the innacurate description of it 
only being a problem with 2.6 kernels.

Signed-off-by: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>

diff --git a/man2/perf_event_open.2 b/man2/perf_event_open.2
index 39c8d8c..76136e2 100644
--- a/man2/perf_event_open.2
+++ b/man2/perf_event_open.2
@@ -2353,6 +2353,12 @@ once the counter reaches 0
 is indicated and
 the underlying event is disabled.
 
+Refreshing an event group leader refreshes all siblings and
+refreshing with a parameter of 0 currently enables infinite
+refreshes;
+these behaviors are unsupported and should not be relied on.
+.\" See https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/24/337
+
 Starting with Linux 3.18,
 .\" commit 179033b3e064d2cd3f5f9945e76b0a0f0fbf4883
 .B POLL_HUP
@@ -2805,11 +2811,6 @@ Prior to Linux 2.6.35,
 .B PERF_FORMAT_GROUP
 did not work with attached processes.
 
-In older Linux 2.6 versions,
-refreshing an event group leader refreshed all siblings,
-and refreshing with a parameter of 0 enabled infinite refresh.
-This behavior is unsupported and should not be relied on.
-
 There is a bug in the kernel code between
 Linux 2.6.36 and Linux 3.0 that ignores the
 "watermark" field and acts as if a wakeup_event

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* Re: [patch] perf_event_open.2: Clarify PERF_EVENT_IOC_REFRESH behavior
  2015-02-12 17:14 [patch] perf_event_open.2: Clarify PERF_EVENT_IOC_REFRESH behavior Vince Weaver
@ 2015-02-17  5:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2015-02-17  5:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vince Weaver
  Cc: mtk.manpages, linux-man, linux-kernel, Peter Zijlstra,
	Paul Mackerras, Ingo Molnar, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

On 02/12/2015 06:14 PM, Vince Weaver wrote:
> 
> Currently the PERF_EVENT_IOC_REFRESH ioctl, when applied to a group
> leader, will refresh all children.  Also if a refresh value of 0
> is chosen then the refresh becomes infinite (never runs out).
> Back in 2011 PAPI was relying on these behaviors but I was told
> that both were unsupported and subject to being removed at any time.
>    (See https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/24/337 )
> However the behavior has not been changed.  

Thanks, Vince. Applied.

Cheers,

Michael


> This patch updates the manpage to still list the behavior as
> unsupported, but removes the innacurate description of it 
> only being a problem with 2.6 kernels.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>
> 
> diff --git a/man2/perf_event_open.2 b/man2/perf_event_open.2
> index 39c8d8c..76136e2 100644
> --- a/man2/perf_event_open.2
> +++ b/man2/perf_event_open.2
> @@ -2353,6 +2353,12 @@ once the counter reaches 0
>  is indicated and
>  the underlying event is disabled.
>  
> +Refreshing an event group leader refreshes all siblings and
> +refreshing with a parameter of 0 currently enables infinite
> +refreshes;
> +these behaviors are unsupported and should not be relied on.
> +.\" See https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/24/337
> +
>  Starting with Linux 3.18,
>  .\" commit 179033b3e064d2cd3f5f9945e76b0a0f0fbf4883
>  .B POLL_HUP
> @@ -2805,11 +2811,6 @@ Prior to Linux 2.6.35,
>  .B PERF_FORMAT_GROUP
>  did not work with attached processes.
>  
> -In older Linux 2.6 versions,
> -refreshing an event group leader refreshed all siblings,
> -and refreshing with a parameter of 0 enabled infinite refresh.
> -This behavior is unsupported and should not be relied on.
> -
>  There is a bug in the kernel code between
>  Linux 2.6.36 and Linux 3.0 that ignores the
>  "watermark" field and acts as if a wakeup_event
> 
> 


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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