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From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ctime.3: Use VLA notation for [as]ctime_r() buffer
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 11:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <551fe7b3-593e-efdf-61e6-199388ab031c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5782a3ea-9774-3acb-e365-1e4d03ed3358@gmail.com>

Just forwarding a conversation to the list

On 10/21/21 10:27 AM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Jens,
> 
> On 10/21/21 10:17 AM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
>> Ideally, the standard and the man-pages would have the same 
>> prototypes.   However, since the standard is not (and cannot be) 
>> perfect, when it has some limitations that it cannot overcome which we 
>> can, I'll be happy to differ from it.  nonnull IMO is very useful in 
>> the SYNOPSIS, so I'd like to have it (and I'd also like the standard 
>> to have it, but that's likely to take a decade, if it happens at 
>> all).  Also, the man-pages already use array notation in some specific 
>> cases (see pipe(2)), and they are mostly targeted at C programmers, so 
>> I think we can safely assume that a C++ reader will know the 
>> limitation of its language, and be able to translate C to C++ easily.  
>> If any glibc programmer has any concerns regarding that, this is the 
>> moment for giving a different opinion :).
> 
> I rethinked it a bit after seeing pipe(2) again.  I never understood why 
> 'static' should be needed at all in an array parameter.  The standard 
> could have also accepted [26] as requiring at least 26 elements in the 
> array, without requiring the use of static.  There may be reasons for 
> that that I ignore, of course; maybe backwards compatibility.... But 
> since the man-pages can present the same information without the static 
> keyword, I'll edit my patches to just use [restrict 26], instead of 
> [static restrict 26], which is more compact.
> 
> BTW, I just noticed that these emails were offlist.  If you want to keep 
> them offlist, I'l do so, but we typically CC the list to have open 
> discussions.  If you give me permission, I'll forward these emails to 
> the mailing lists.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alex
> 


-- 
Alejandro Colomar
Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-20 20:22 [PATCH 1/2] ctime.3: Use VLA notation for [as]ctime_r() buffer Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-20 20:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] ctime.3, strftime.3, strptime.3, timegm.3: Add [[gnu::nonnull]] to <time.h> prototypes Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-21  8:13   ` AW: " Walter Harms
2021-10-21  9:01     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-21 17:40       ` Paul Eggert
2021-10-21 20:54         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <20211021092746.78bc82f8@inria.fr>
2021-10-21  9:12   ` [PATCH 1/2] ctime.3: Use VLA notation for [as]ctime_r() buffer Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
     [not found]   ` <20c1e58b-ba2b-f9df-ab1f-f80725414cf5@gmail.com>
2021-10-21  9:13     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <5782a3ea-9774-3acb-e365-1e4d03ed3358@gmail.com>
2021-10-21  9:14       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20211021110311.52541d69@inria.fr>
     [not found]         ` <ec620c5e-0952-fe16-353c-0210d3bea6e8@gmail.com>
2021-10-21  9:27           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)

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