From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Silvan Jegen <s.jegen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org>,
Walter Harms <wharms-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Edited draft of bpf(2) man page for review/enhancement
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:43:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55AFD64E.9040105@plumgrid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55AFAE47.70209-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 7/22/15 7:52 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> As Daniel said there is no spec for this C. It's a normal C where
>> things like loops, global variables, vararg, floating point,
>> struct passing and bunch of other things are not supported.
>
> I assume we're talking about the LLVM front-end, right?
yes. clang.
There is a bpf backend for gcc, but it's bit rotting now.
> Am I correct that these kernel source files are examples of this restricted C:
>
> samples/bpf/tcbpf1_kern.c
> samples/bpf/tracex2_kern.c
> samples/bpf/tracex4_kern.c
> samples/bpf/tracex1_kern.c
> samples/bpf/tracex3_kern.c
> samples/bpf/sockex1_kern.c
> samples/bpf/sockex2_kern.c
yes.
> And samples/bpf/Makefile shows the necessary LLVM incantation
> to produce the BPF binaries, right?
yes.
Now with llvm 3.7 coming out soon it's even simpler. Just:
clang -O2 -target bpf -c file.c
> Anyway, I added the following text in NOTES:
>
> eBPF objects (maps and programs) can be shared between pro‐
> cesses. For example, after fork(2), the child inherits file
> descriptors referring to the same eBPF objects. In addition,
> file descriptors referring to eBPF objects can be transferred
> over UNIX domain sockets. File descriptors referring to eBPF
> objects can be duplicated in the usual way, using dup(2) and
> similar calls. An eBPF object is deallocated only after all
> file descriptors referring to the object have been closed.
>
> Is the above all correct?
yes. all correct.
> This makes me curious: why was the BPF functionality not designed as
> a *set* of system calls (as per these wrappers), rather than the existing
> multiplexed call?
because new commands are much easier to add to existing syscall
instead of adding new syscall for every new command.
> [[
> If
> .I key
> is found, the operation returns zero and sets the
> .I next_key
> pointer to the key of the next element.
> ]]
>
> right?
yes.
>>> BPF_MOV64_IMM(BPF_REG_1, 1), /* r1 = 1 */
>>> BPF_XADD(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_0, BPF_REG_1, 0, 0),
>>> .\" FIXME What does 'lock' in the line below mean?
>>> /* lock *(u64 *) r0 += r1 */
>>
>> it means that it's 'lock xadd' equivalent.
>
> Sorry -- you've assumed I'm cleverer than I am... :-}
> I'm not wiser after that comment. What is 'lock xadd'?
I meant that it is == atomic64_add
> If you might have a chance to look at my questions above and
> let me know your thoughts, then I could further edit the page
> before sending out the next draft.
I think would be great to get some form of the man page out and
work on it incrementally. Quite a few folks have asked for it.
Thanks!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-22 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-27 8:43 Edited draft of bpf(2) man page for review/enhancement Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <556583B4.4000607-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-27 9:26 ` Daniel Borkmann
[not found] ` <55658DB4.6000106-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 14:49 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55AFAD7A.6090009-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 15:12 ` Daniel Borkmann
[not found] ` <55AFB2E0.5060307-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 15:58 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-05-28 4:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-21 9:43 ` Daniel Borkmann
[not found] ` <55669E44.6050907-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 14:52 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55AFAE47.70209-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 17:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
[not found] ` <55AFD64E.9040105-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 17:59 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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