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From: Zeno Endemann <zeno.endemann@mailbox.org>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Missing error values in ftruncate and fallocate man pages?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 21:12:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56356afa-99c5-4845-830e-dcf441eb376e@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adk2_jjPuyuQVbKI@debian>

Alejandro Colomar wrote on 10.04.26 19:47:
> Hi Zeno,
> 
> On 2026-04-10T18:52:29+0200, Zeno Endemann wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I noticed that the man page for truncate(2) does not list the error codes
>> ENOSPC and EDQUOT, but I would think those should be potentially possible
>> when actually expanding a file (may depend on file system?).
>>
>> Similarly, fallocate(2) also does not list EDQUOT (ENOSPC is there however).
>> Finally, posix_fallocate(3) has no EDQUOT as well, and EIO also seems to be
>> missing for this one.
>>
>> Or am I overlooking something?
> 
> Sounds plausible.  If you could either perform some experiments or show
> the relevant kernel sources that make it possible, we could know for
> sure.  If you find out it's possible, would you mind sending a patch?

I ran a quick test, on a FAT32 partition ftruncate can indeed return ENOSPC.
On most other file systems I suspect it will not, as most fs support files
with unallocated space. Not sure there is a file system supporting quotas
but not sparse files, I have never worked with quotas. Maybe someone else
can pitch in there?

As a side note, I think it would be preferable if the allowed error codes
would be agreed upon / specified regardless of whether there is an in-kernel
file system which can currently actually return those, since how things are
implemented can change over time, and there is also FUSE - technically with
my own FUSE file system I can make these functions return any arbitrary errno
value, but a well-behaving FUSE implementation of course would restrict itself
to such a specified "contract". Though I suppose this is likely not the right
place to discuss this further ;)

Cheers,


> 
> 
> Have a lovely day!
> Alex
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Zeno Endemann
>>
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-10 16:52 Missing error values in ftruncate and fallocate man pages? Zeno Endemann
2026-04-10 17:47 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-04-10 19:12   ` Zeno Endemann [this message]
2026-04-11 14:08     ` Alejandro Colomar

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