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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>,
	Siddhesh Poyarekar
	<siddhesh-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Rich Felker <dalias-/miJ2pyFWUyWIDz0JBNUog@public.gmane.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro
	<kosaki.motohiro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha-9JcytcrH/bA+uJoB2kUjGw@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland-/Z5OmTQCD9xF6kxbq+BtvQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix readdir_r with long file names
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:20:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DF09D9.3050909@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D6C2CA.2020609-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

Ping on this man page text. Anyone have an opinion for or against?

Thanks,

Michael


On 03/02/2016 11:39 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 03/02/2016 12:44 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 03/02/2016 12:25 AM, Paul Eggert wrote:
>>
>>>> And at the cost of
>>>> changing sizeof (struct dirent), which can't be a good thing.
>>>
>>> Any program that depends on sizeof (struct dirent) is broken already, so
>>> this isn't that worrisome.
>>
>> Just to be clear, you looked at the wrong struct dirent definition for
>> GNU/Linux, there is a sysdeps override.
>>
>> Right now, most programs relying on sizeof (struct dirent) work well in
>> almost all cases.  We really don't want to break that.  There appears to
>> be an overlap between these programs and users of readdir_r, so once we
>> remove that from the API, we should have better story for struct dirent
>> declarators as well.
> 
> So, it seems like much more could be said about this in documentation.
> How about the following text for the man page?
> 
>    DESCRIPTION
> 
>        [...]
> 
>        In the glibc implementation, the dirent structure is defined as
>        follows:
> 
>            struct dirent {
>                ino_t          d_ino;       /* Inode number */
>                off_t          d_off;       /* Not an offset; see below */
>                unsigned short d_reclen;    /* Length of this record */
>                unsigned char  d_type;      /* Type of file; not supported
>                                               by all filesystem types */
>                char           d_name[256]; /* Null-terminated filename */
>            };
> 
>        [...]
>    NOTES
>      The d_name field
>        The  dirent  structure definition shown above is taken from the
>        glibc headers, and shows the d_name field with a fixed size.
> 
>        Warning: applications should avoid any dependence on  the  size
>        of the dname field.  POSIX defines it as char d_name[], a char‐
>        acter array of unspecified size, with at most NAME_MAX  charac‐
>        ters preceding the terminating null byte ('\0').
> 
>        POSIX.1  explicitly notes that this field should not be used as
>        an  lvalue.   The  standard  also  notes  that   the   use   of
>        sizeof(d_name)  (and  by  implication sizeof(struct dirent)) is
>        incorrect; use strlen(d_name) instead.  (On some systems,  this
>        field is defined as char d_name[1]!)
> 
>        Note that while the call
> 
>            fpathconf(fd, _PC_NAME_MAX)
> 
>        returns the value 255 for most filesystems, on some filesystems
>        (e.g., CIFS, Windows SMB servers), the null-terminated filename
>        that is (correctly) returned in d_name can actually exceed this
>        size.  (In such cases, the d_reclen field will contain a  value
>        that  exceeds  the  size  of  the  glibc dirent structure shown
>        above.)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 


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2016-03-01  8:07                         ` [PATCH] Fix readdir_r with long file names Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-03-01 16:59                           ` Florian Weimer
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2016-03-01 20:14                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                 ` <56D5F832.3070209-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 20:27                                   ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                     ` <56D5FB3D.5000306-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 21:01                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                         ` <56D60335.7010906-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 22:21                                           ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                             ` <56D615D7.5020304-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 22:27                                               ` Rich Felker
2016-03-02  8:17                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-03-01 21:20                                     ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                       ` <56D607BB.6080701-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 22:16                                         ` Florian Weimer
2016-03-01 22:41                                           ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                             ` <56D61A86.3050108-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 23:07                                               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                                 ` <56D620AA.40108-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 23:25                                                   ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                                     ` <56D624FE.1090702-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 23:44                                                       ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                                         ` <56D6294A.5040703-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-02 10:39                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                                             ` <56D6C2CA.2020609-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-08 17:20                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2016-03-10 11:22                                                             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                                               ` <56E158F4.6040506-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-10 17:06                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-03-02 17:44                                                         ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                                           ` <56D72683.6010302-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-03 22:39                                                             ` Joseph Myers
2016-03-08 12:20                                                             ` Florian Weimer

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