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From: walter harms <wharms-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Victor Khimenko <khim-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Changhee Han <ch0.han-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: syscall(2)
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 13:05:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58BEA1F3.2070502@bfs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170306190803.GJ28432@vapier>



Am 06.03.2017 20:08, schrieb Mike Frysinger:
> On 06 Mar 2017 12:01, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> [Extending the CC for some other input. Changhee Han added the text
>> that you are asking about; Mike F has done a lot of other work on the
>> page. Perhaps they can comment.]
>>
>> On 5 March 2017 at 09:08, Victor Khimenko <khim-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> syscall(2) example includes the following snippet which explains how to
>>> call readahead on ARM:
>>>
>>>        syscall(SYS_readahead, fd, 0,
>>>                    (unsigned int) (offset >> 32),
>>>                    (unsigned int) (offset & 0xFFFFFFFF),
>>>                    count);
>>>
>>> But ARM EABI specifies that "A double-word sized type is passed in two
>>> consecutive registers (e.g., r0 and r1, or r2 and r3). The content of
>>> the registers is as if the value had been loaded from memory representation
>>> with a single LDM instruction."
>>>
>>> This would imply that arguments are swapped around in the man page, no?
>>
>> So, I'm taking it that you mean the call should look like this:
>>
>>        syscall(SYS_readahead, fd, 0,
>>                    (unsigned int) (offset & 0xFFFFFFFF),
>>                    (unsigned int) (offset >> 32),
>>                   count);
>>
>> Is that what you mean?
>>
>>> I've tried to experiement and with ftruncate, at least, it works like
>>> this...
>>
>> Sounds plausible. I'm hoping that Mike or Changhee Han might comment.
> 
> it depends on the endianness.  the man page shows BE, and Victor's
> suggestion changes it to LE.  we probably need to explain that and
> not just swap the args in the example.
> -mike


I think that the point is: "invokes the system call whose assembly language interface"

And a lot of new programmes have no experience with assembler these days. So the example
should go into more details an explain how this is mapped into registers.
e.g. ARM/EABI
          syscall(SYS_readahead,                    // r7
		   fd,                              // r0
	            0,                              // r1
                   (unsigned int) (offset >> 32),   // r2
                   (unsigned int) (offset & 0xFFFFFFFF), // r3
                   count);                         //r4

Then the next lines make more sense for the reader:
"       Since  the  offset  argument is 64 bits, and the first argument (fd) is
       passed in r0, the caller must manually split and align the 64-bit value
       so  that it is passed in the r2/r3 register pair.  That means inserting
       a dummy value into r1 (the second argument of 0)."

then adding something like pitfalls:
The programmer needs to be aware of the endianess of is cpu. Big Endian CPU will
need to swap arguments.

@khim-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
what do you think ?

re,
 wh

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-05  8:08 syscall(2) Victor Khimenko
     [not found] ` <CABLBYvTBKvQXSmiGx3LOUoFHZDGAMmNCofcuHTiKW51kS2bh4g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 11:01   ` syscall(2) Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <CAKgNAkg1iRisrd18WHn64j1NWAs2T0hrsc7dRoZs4XPV_22uhA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:08       ` syscall(2) Mike Frysinger
2017-03-07 12:05         ` walter harms [this message]
     [not found]           ` <58BEA1F3.2070502-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 21:51             ` syscall(2) Victor Khimenko
     [not found]               ` <CABLBYvRKpgpg9cHMksP3v0StizrZKKYO0ih4E90vc7dti4cgfw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 22:51                 ` syscall(2) Mike Frysinger
2017-03-11  3:16   ` [PATCH] syscall(2): add endian details with 64-bit splitting Mike Frysinger
     [not found]     ` <20170311031600.717-1-vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-11 18:04       ` Victor Khimenko
2017-03-11 19:54       ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Frysinger
     [not found]         ` <20170311195422.3479-1-vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-12  4:31           ` Victor Khimenko
     [not found]             ` <CABLBYvROUxy+NyDwQwDZw57KbC6igHoCKbJ6oYjA3j+rQVteEw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-12  9:49               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-03-12  9:48           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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