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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/14/25 5:27 PM, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar > --- > > Hi! > > I've already been DDoSed in my own home server by AI crawlers (which is > the reason I decided to move the HTTPS server to port 80, just to break > links and stop the madness. I could install Anubis, but I'll resist for > some time. It does not logically follow that because there are bad actors we should ban a particular tool that the bad actors use. > So far, I haven't noticed any contributors using AI. Probably, the > combination of relatively few people contributing documentation, > combined with still working on a mailing list, has helped us avoid the > wave of AI contributions. > > However, it's better to take preventive measures. AI is entirely banned > in this project. The guidelines are clear and concise. Why? (1) Document intent. I don't support a ban without a justification. That justification can be on moral or ethical grounds, or even on the grounds of energy used vs outcomes achieved. (2) Document acceptable use. We should also talk about where it would be acceptable to use such tools, for example could the tool check spelling, or grammar? Something that is likely already done by expert systems (that exist somewhere on the continuum of symbol manipulators all the way to large neural networks). > Have a lovely night! > Alex > > > CONTRIBUTING.d/ai | 5 +++++ > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) > create mode 100644 CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > > diff --git a/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > new file mode 100644 > index 000000000..1e211a4de > --- /dev/null > +++ b/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai > @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ > +Name > + AI - using artificial intelligence for contributing > + > +Description > + Any use of AI for contributing to this project is unacceptable. -- Cheers, Carlos.