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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>,
	Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	Mark Harris <mark.hsj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: POSIX.1-2024 requires 64-bit time_t
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 13:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6402036.DvuYhMxLoT@kona> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMdZqKFyc=cNh-aQVLZ6ovEZurzqSREhY1gx8L0m27f2uS=smw@mail.gmail.com>

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> 
> For glibc, all 64-bit platforms, and the most recently added 32-bit
> platforms (arc, riscv32, or1k), use 64-bit time_t.  All older but
> still-supported 32-bit platforms (arm, csky, hppa, m68k, microblaze,
> mips, powerpc, s390, sh, sparc, x86) currently use 32-bit time_t by
> default but can use 64-bit time_t with -D_TIME_BITS=64.  For musl, all
> platforms use 64-bit time_t.
> 

Yes.

Gentoo is one of the few places where this is still relevant, and where
the upgrade path is also tricky (since we're a source distribution).

We are still in the preparation phase of moving all 32bit architectures
to 64-bit time_t, but nearly all pieces are in place now.

We intend to change the ABI part of CHOST, from -gnu to -gnut64, to
clarify that this can subtly break sytemwide binary compatibility.

[Not of glibc itself, but of other libraries that include time_t in
their headers somehow.]
[[This is not an academic issue. It broke certificate validation of
openssl.]]

For more details (offtopic in this context) please contact me or Sam.

> POSIX.1-2024 requires that an implementation offer a conforming
> environment that supports 64-bit time_t, but it is also free to offer
> other non-conforming environments that use 32-bit time_t.
> 
>  - Mark
> 


-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer
(council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-19 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-18  9:58 POSIX.1-2024 requires 64-bit time_t Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 16:54 ` Collin Funk
2025-05-18 21:52   ` Mark Harris
2025-05-18 22:06     ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 22:09       ` Mark Harris
2025-05-18 22:13         ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-18 22:46     ` Collin Funk
2025-05-19 11:31     ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]

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