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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
Cc: Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Deri <deri@chuzzlewit.myzen.co.uk>
Subject: Re: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 23:32:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e547bb9-d993-da6f-e072-9daba019ea27@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230812014809.zhhsz52saqwxbyh4@illithid>


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Hi Branden,

On 2023-08-12 03:48, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> At 2023-08-12T02:02:49+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> On 2023-08-07 18:21, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>>>> $ pwd
>>>>> /home/alx/src/linux/man-pages/man-pages/6.04/scripts/LinuxManBook
>>>>> $ ./BuildLinuxMan.pl  ../../
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Failed to open 'DESC'
>>>
>>> That annoyingly minimal message provoked the patch submitted.
>>
>> Yeah; it took me some time to find the cause.  The error message
>> doesn't even tell who failed --was it the shell, was it gropdf, was it
>> troff?--.
>>
>> :)
> 
> This sort of thing makes me purple with rage and I have tried to purge
> groff of such unhelpful diagnostics--especially those that are uttered
> furtively by programs (or, worse, libraries) that attempt to remain
> anonymous.  Doug McIlroy was telling people to cut this crap out in 1986
> (or maybe a decade before that, even) and people _still_ ignore him.
> 
> https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/reader.pdf (p. 9)

Hmm, that was an interesting read.  It explains a few inconsistencies
in the design of UNIX that I didn't understand.  I didn't know pipes
came so late into the timeline.  :)

Cheers,
Alex

> 
> Much work was done on groff 1.23 to fix this, but I'm not certain all
> such offenders have been rehabilitated.
> 
> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?52463
> 
> When you encounter one, strike it with lightning.
> 
> Regards,
> Branden

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07  1:16 [PATCH] scripts/LinuxManBook/gropdf: use symlink instead of hard coded groff version Brian Inglis
2023-08-07  2:46 ` No 6.05/.01 pdf book available Brian Inglis
2023-08-07  8:45   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-07  9:16     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-07 16:21       ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-12  0:02         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-12  1:48           ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-12 21:32             ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
     [not found]     ` <21975186.EfDdHjke4D@pip>
2023-08-11 23:51       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-12  3:04         ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-12 21:33           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-12 17:02       ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-12 20:02         ` Deri
2023-08-13 20:30           ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-13 20:47             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-13 21:55               ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-13 22:45                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-13 22:18               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-14  6:49                 ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-14 10:46                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-13 21:47             ` hyphens at ends of pages (was: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available) G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-14  5:28               ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-14 16:06             ` No 6.05/.01 pdf book available Deri
2023-08-14 17:37               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-14 20:01                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-14 21:22                   ` Deri
2023-08-14 21:32                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-14 23:26                       ` Deri
2023-08-14 21:40                 ` Deri
2023-08-15  0:50                   ` groff features for hyperlinked man pages (was: No 6.05/.01 pdf book available) G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-15 10:34                     ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-18 13:50                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-19  4:37                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-10-01 12:02                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-18 10:29                   ` No 6.05/.01 pdf book available Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-15  0:34               ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-20 16:48                 ` Deri
2023-08-20 18:54                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-20 19:06                   ` Brian Inglis
     [not found]                     ` <3262525.44csPzL39Z@pip>
2023-08-21 22:02                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-21 23:10                         ` Deri
2023-08-21 23:45                         ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-28 12:17                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-28 18:24                             ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-28 21:11                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-07  8:29 ` [PATCH] scripts/LinuxManBook/gropdf: use symlink instead of hard coded groff version Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-07 15:01 ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-11 23:57 ` Alejandro Colomar

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